In peace St Helens fans. With all the stuff, you're still a massive club. Things aren't as good as they should be for club like Saints, but I'm sure things will turn around. As much as I don't like to say it/admit it, you have a great knack of sorting things out. You'll be there and there abouts next year, like most years competing at the very top. Good luck (but not too much luck!) In recruiting for next year. We need all our top sides in rl to be attracting the best in talent to get the punters in, and get the focus back on the best game in the world.

I haven't been on this site for a while. Thought I'd come on to see what people thought of the GF and then came across this thread.

The start was bizarre with Wolfs fans trying to drum up some sort of fiction about how our fans are sore losers. As someone said above: sore winners is far more appropriate.

The thread then turned inot some embarassing dick measuring contest about who the bigger club is, but I think it can be summed up as follows:

- the wolfs fans would trade us for our trophy cabinet in a heartbeat.
- the wolfs have a better team than us currently.

I can't see much else of any relevance, although tonight shows how bottleless this Warrington club are. Fair play to get to both finals, but we know only too well that it means absolutely nothing unless you win.

This was their chance. A patched up Wigan team that were there for the taking and they were played off the park in my view. Wigan rolled down field with ease and it was only their lack of a final pass that let the wolfs off the hook.

I'm glad we didn't get there because we would have been murdered by that Wigan team.

I only dread to think what next season has in store for us under Cunningham.

But the shoe isn't on the other foot. That one "jammy" night in 2014 is still one more Championship than your club has won in 60 years. The likes of Featherstone Halifax, Dewsbury, Oldham have all won it more recently. Swinton have fallen from grace enough you send your fringe players to play there, and they still have won a Championship almost a decade more recently than Warrington! If it is that easy to get lucky and win a Grand Final, I can't help but wonder how Warrington haven't managed it yet.

maybe we are just unlucky.... you mention Dewsbury's win in 73....

of course you knew Wires topped the league that year but the champions were decided by a play off which EIGHTH place Dewsbury won.... worthy champions I'm sure you'll agree.....

the following year we won the play off competition but that year the champions tag was awarded to the league leaders... unlucky I guess.....

we then were pipped in 1994 losing out to points difference to Wigan. so still quite close even in the 90's which was our most desperate decade...

quite rightly we are open to ridicule for not winning the particular version of the championship trophy for 62 years.....

but the desperation to try and label us a small club that has won nothing is quite sad.
our honours list is still quite impressive I'm guessing our overall trophy count is less than Wigans leeds and Saints and then better than the rest.

Comparisons are meaningless as the time frame is arbitrary.

In terms of championships, Halifax, Oldham, Hull, Hull KR, Salford, Swinton, Bradford, Huddersfield, Leeds, Wigan and St.Helens have all won more.

Yourselves and Widnes are both on 3 each. You have won 1 more challenge cup than Widnes although they have a World club challenge win to their name...mind you, you did win the 1955-56 Independent Television Floodlit Trophy and nobody can take that away from you.

wow you managed to read the bit where I said our overall trophy count is better than most bar wigan leeds and saints and decided just to count championships..

awesome

and Widnes have a won a world club challenge you say, you'd think they would mention that to us every once in a while.....still its not like they had to wait 103 years to win a league title...!!! that would be just embarrassing surely...

Jesus christ these warrington fans are taking a good hiding on here. Keep it going.

I commented earlier in this thread that it was bizarre now it's surreal . I can just about understand wires gloating and glossing over the inconsistencies in last week's match. After all they won and made the GF.

Now they have lost, and to be totally honest only looked like managing tries through barge overs or on the back of penalties, and they are still here.

On the basis of their last two "big" games they are at the stage were their attack really does make Saints look like the entertainers in comparison.

I suspect the wire board must be a grim place at the moment if you want to take refuge here - tried the Wigan board yet?

Just to add, our greatest rivals won on Saturday, yet not one as come on here gloating and rubbing our noses in it. Credit to them.

This massive club that couldn't make the 8's

This massive club that couldn't make the 8's. Also lost out to Saints for Barbs and Bentley