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| Mixed bag for me.
The kicking game in the first half looked awful, however it must be said that Saints were kicking into a very strong wind.
I thought the pack were out muscled for quite a bit of the match by Widnes, only Perry and Clough showed the ability to make yards in heavy traffic.
Foster was all at sea for large parts of the match in defence. It was comical at times.
The players were not familiar were the touchlines were, and ran into touch on a number of occasions.
Lance is a fast elusive runner, but didnt create anything with the ball in hand. He is the type of player that at times will run up his own backside. Will frighten opposition defences though as teams wont know what he is doing. Problem is this also applies for Saints as well.
When Gaskell came on, the team moved the ball around the field far better. His try was good and the ball he gave for Dixons well taken try was superb
Makinson was outstanding. Started at fullback and was like a rock in defence and dangerous in attack. Excellent break then perfectly timed inside pass for Melis try. Also scored an excellent try.
Lafranchi was pretty anonymous.
Ashe looked dangerous when on the field. He seems to glide across the pitch and beat people without seemingly trying. Could be a breakthrough season for him.
Soliolas big hit. BOOOOOOOM!!!, he then goes and misses a number of tackles that he really should have made.
Wheeler didnt fall apart on contact with the opposition.
We got pinged for crossing a few times in the game which is a sign that the players are still not upto speed with the moves yet.
Defence was as porous as one of the Typhoo tea bags.
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| Lance Hohaia cannot play at fullback as he cannot catch. He should be the back from the bench who gets 4 minutes at the end of matches. Gaskell's a better player.
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| How did Widnes fair in this game ?
It will be nice to read an unbiased report..........
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| Quote Bomb Jack="Bomb Jack"How did Widnes fair in this game ?'"
They faired very well, although I think they had a few injuries. Hopefully nothing serious. Watt and Flynn were most noticeable. Troublesome players both.
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| Quote Bomb Jack="Bomb Jack"How did Widnes fair in this game ?
It will be nice to read an unbiased report..........'"
Very, very well. They were the more 'up for it' team and were pretty dominant early in the game. I'd say the Widnes attack was the more creative of the two and the more willing to attack from deep. Widnes scored a couple of really well constructed tries and looked to have a good balance of pace and power in the backline. I like the look of Hanbury and Paddy Flynn took his tries well.
Defensively Widnes' approach was borderline Wigan-esque. It would be a shame if they went down the negative Wigan route and tried to play anti-rugby next season. There were periods of deliberate holding down, attention on standing legs and getting unneccessary numbers into the tackle in order to slow the game down. Being a friendly it worked to a degree, although without the defensive discipline Wigan have it might not be so successful in a SL game. I think Widnes will be pleased with the showing, they won't be flogged every week like some teams have been in SL on that showing and there should be enough there to do quite well at home particularly. They were very creative and were clearly at a more advanced stage of preparation than Saints, who were very rusty. Two tries in 30 seconds towards the end made the score unrepresentative of the game itself IMO.
You have to take into account the fact that there were unlimited interchanges tonight, so there were a lot of changes on both sides at times.
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| Quote Bomb Jack="Bomb Jack"How did Widnes fair in this game ?'"
Better than us for most of it.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Very, very well. They were the more 'up for it' team and were pretty dominant early in the game. I'd say the Widnes attack was the more creative of the two and the more willing to attack from deep. Widnes scored a couple of really well constructed tries and looked to have a good balance of pace and power in the backline. I like the look of Hanbury and Paddy Flynn took his tries well.
Defensively Widnes' approach was borderline Wigan-esque. It would be a shame if they went down the negative Wigan route and tried to play anti-rugby next season. There were periods of deliberate holding down, attention on standing legs and getting unneccessary numbers into the tackle in order to slow the game down. Being a friendly it worked to a degree, although without the defensive discipline Wigan have it might not be so successful in a SL game. I think Widnes will be pleased with the showing, they won't be flogged every week like some teams have been in SL on that showing and there should be enough there to do quite well at home particularly. They were very creative and were clearly at a more advanced stage of preparation than Saints, who were very rusty. Two tries in 30 seconds towards the end made the score unrepresentative of the game itself IMO.
You have to take into account the fact that there were unlimited interchanges tonight, so there were a lot of changes on both sides at times.'"
Paddy Flynn had a bet with my nephew that if he scored one try he would get his mates a pint each, score two and he would get them a pint and shots and score three (which he clearly didn't expect to do) he would get them a pint, shots and strip naked and run down Market Street.
The things you bet on and regret eh...........?
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| Quote Bomb Jack="Bomb Jack"How did Widnes fair in this game ?
It will be nice to read an unbiased report..........'"
Very well. Their forwards stuck up for themselves and Handbury and Watts were really impressive in the halves.
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| Gaskell, Makinson and Ashe all really impressed, Perry, Clough and Dixon looked good in bursts in the forwards, Wheeler showed flashes of quality on the rare occasions the ball went his way (and lasted a full 80 minutes). Hohaia also looked dangerous (to both teams mind you) a few times running with the ball, and Sia got a few good smacks in... That's about it as far as positives go really... Mostly all down to unfamiliar territory and pre-season rustiness etc. I'm sure, so nothing to be worried about particularly yet, but I was just a little alarmed at Foster's terrible defensive howlers seemingly carrying on from last season. He needs to sort it out and fast. Also Lomax' kicking game looked no better than last season (although perhaps unfair to judge in the conditions) which is another slight worry. In fact our tactical kicking game generally was simply shocking throughout - some teamsheet juggling to squeeze Gaskell in somewhere may start to become a priority...
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| I thought it was a difficult game to assess with so many interchanges and Royce trying so many different options.
Widnes looked better as they more a less kept to a 17 man team with not a lot of interchanges until they had injuries.
Did notice the lack of ball bounce on the pitch, and that windy NW corner kick when the ball comes back.
Only noticeable things seemed to be the lack of momentum with our pack and the difference in attack when Gaskell came on.
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| Quote Bomb Jack="Bomb Jack"How did Widnes fair in this game ?
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I thought Widnes did very well, they looked like a team that had been together much longer than they have. The halfbacks looked good and paddy Flynn took his tries well.
I think saints class told in the end but up until last 15 mins I thought Widnes was slightly the better side and IMO had a perfectly good try ruled off when foster dropped another kick.
On the subject of foster, he looked shocking!
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"It's always hard to tell alot from a friendly (especially when you are not there), but one thing came across on the radio pretty clearly, we needed more than 1 friendly. Thats it now, a couple of weeks no more games and we are into the real thing.'"
I don't think you need more than one friendly. The season is a long, hard slog and as Leeds proved, it doesn't matter if you're poor early on as long as you finish well. They had the best season of anyone last year and they finished 5th! We're also lucky we have London and Salford up 1st, two teams who are likely to be in the lower half of the table. It gives us a chance to build momentum rather than playing someone like Wigan or Warrington early when we're not ready (like last year).
Whilst Saints looked rusty and poor at times, we will improve as the season goes on and we have time to find our best form and side (which I think is up for debate at this stage). I just hope we're in the mix again come the end of the season and do justice in the new stadium.
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