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and pray tell how many times was Jon Wilkin holding down at the play of the ball? Not just the Grand Final but throughout the season? Or third man into the tackle just to slow it down a tad....

Pot, kettle, black eh?????

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Quote: Chorley Rhino "and pray tell how many times was Jon Wilkin holding down at the play of the ball? Not just the Grand Final but throughout the season? Or third man into the tackle just to slow it down a tad....

Pot, kettle, black eh?????'"


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Just to enlighten you, this is not the point.

The point in question is the style of the game being played.

Wilkin, like many others, is playing to the interpretaion of the rules of the game at present. No matter who perpetrates it, it creates a poor spectacle.

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Leeds fans calling Saints fans arrogant.

Excellent jest.

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Quote: D.D. "snip'"
I think the problem is that our ability to embrace professionalism has far exceeded our ability to coach the attacking skills to match the effects of full time training, diet plans, weight routines. I feel that we will improve and the RL were correct to stop us focussing on the quick play the ball as it rewards athletisism before skills, they've almost panicked and gone overboard.

We don't have any Andy Gregs or Blobbie Gs because the skills they had were not honed playing SL rugby, they hailed from different days were the game rewarded more slinky skills with aplomb.

Maybe we should've kept the quick play the ball, but bring in a turnover ruling if you're caught in possesion when you run from dummy half??

If we had time in the calander, I'd have another competetion with some basic rule changes, using the five metre rule for a start and having a restriction on the number of players over a certain age. I'd probably even limit the number of substitutes (maybe 2 subs and 5 interchanges).

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Quote: FearTheVee "I think that says a lot about Saints fans deciding the game is now boring.'"
Well, luckily, despite Saints fans delusions, you don't run the game.

The Yorkshire mafia do.

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By the way, in amongst all of this, can anyone explain why Saints attendances rose this season?

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Quote: G1 "Well, luckily, despite Saints fans delusions, you don't run the game.

The Yorkshire mafia do.'"


I hope you enjoy the SKY seasonal review with Eddie telling us this was SL's best ever season...

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Quote: D.D. "So if it wasn't an issue, why have people been flagging it up since before the end of the successful 2006 season?

Since the penny dropped that we were being short changed in terms of entertainment, we have actually won seven pieces of silverware.

Saints are playing little differently than we did under Anderson, contrary to belief. Our beef is not with the style we are playing per se, it's the overall change of the Rugby Leagie product from one where teams (generally) took risks, threw the ball about and entertained the public, rather than bashing it down the middle.

Teams and coaches no longer try to score from anywhere on the park, they merely try to attain field position so that they can be closer to the line to plough over.

Rugby League has effectively gone down the avenue that the Leeds United and Arsenal football teams did in the 70s and the way the Italians have always played that game. Whereas the emphasis used to be primarily on attack minded football, it is now defensive minded. The moves and set-plays are predictable, everyone knows what is going to happen next but no-one cares as long as they don't concede. No-one tries to outscore the opposition, they simply contain the opposition and just hope something eventually happens at the other end.

All as I know is that I know not just Saints supporters but a good sprinkling of Wigan and Warrington ones too and the complaint is always the same. For the first 18 years of me watching the game, from 1987 to 2005, I could count the number of games I was bored at on one hand. Even one-sided games provided thrilling bouts of spell-binding rugby. Over the last three or four years, at least half the games I have been to have bored me out of my skull and it's exactly the same when I watch other teams play on Sky. Watch a tries compilation and 95% are the same as the last one. Play-the-ball, one pass to the side, crash over. Hurrah! What fun.

The game is now every bit as boring as the one that Union fans used to accuse it of being. It's simply thirteen blokes bashing into each other. A bit of trench warfare where you can hope to gain a bit of territory now and again on the rare occasions that the skill-less fookers actually manage to keep hold of the ball or the one solitary pass to the side doesn't get hopelessly and needlessly mis-directed.

I enjoyed the game significantly more, when we won nothing in the early 90s, than I have done the last four seasons when we have won a significant amount of silverware. Trophies are not everything to us, as it would appear to be for you lot, and I don't get blinkered into thinking the game is fantastic entertainment just because we happen to finally have a properly succesful period for the first time since the late 1960s/early 1970s. I just want to enjoy the eighty minutes spectacle and not be bored rigid. We beat Wigan in the semi-final and I wasn't excited, I just felt disappointment that not even that game could bring some entertainment.

I am very disillusioned with the sport over here at the moment but there was some hope for me as I watched the latter NRL games where there was some attempt at least by some players to try something different.

My real hope is that the Aussies and Kiwis come here, show us a display of attacking football and give us a right royal thumping or two because the only way we will shake the game up in this country is for us to see that the sterile crap we are all producing is only going to take us further behind and drive the fans away in their droves. Whether they have the inclination to entertain while they can simply walk through us wih negative tactics, remains to be seen.

At the end of the day, negative, defensive Rugby League has been found to be more effective than positive, attacking, flair play and that's what frightens me with regard to the future of this game.

I've been in love with the sport for 22 years but I can see that, in a few years time, I may not be able to take what has happened to the former greatest game any more. It's too painful to see what has happened to the game I loved.'"


Very well summed up . I can honestly say I've pretty much stopped watching SL on TV now.. it's just a waste of my evening.

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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "I hope you enjoy the SKY seasonal review with Eddie telling us this was SL's best ever season...'"
Eddie is heavily biased towards Saints. I never listen to him anyway.

Why were Saints attendances up this year btw?

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Quote: G1 "Eddie is heavily biased towards Saints. I never listen to him anyway.

Why were Saints attendances up this year btw?'"


Hemmings is biased to anyone that's winning - esp. if they are from 'old' Lancashire, but is a Widnesian first and foremost.

Answer to q' - not on SKY nearly as much.

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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "Hemmings is biased to anyone that's winning - esp. if they are from 'old' Lancashire, but is a Widnesian first and foremost.

Answer to q' - not on SKY nearly as much.'"


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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "Hemmings is biased to anyone that's winning - esp. if they are from 'old' Lancashire, but is a Widnesian first and foremost.

Answer to q' - not on SKY nearly as much.'"
Ah, if not on telly people who are so despondent about the state of the game have been going out to watch it live. really helps your theory.

Your club was one of only two IIRC to record increased attendances this year.

I am sorry but I really cannot take any of this nonsense seriously any more.

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Is it just a coincedence that you have started this petition, the year you havent won anything?

I pity all of you who have signed that petition. Rugby league as a whole do not need you.

Glorified fans. Who would have them

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Quote: G1 "Ah, if not on telly people who are so despondent about the state of the game have been going out to watch it live. really helps your theory.

Your club was one of only two IIRC to record increased attendances this year.

I am sorry but I really cannot take any of this nonsense seriously any more.'"


I can't take anyone seriously who cannot understand that a side not being on tv half the amount of times in recent seasons would actually get more people though the gate. icon_idea.gif

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Quote: Ski "Free junior tickets with shirts'"


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Also the £15 offer,

But Shush, it destroys G1's little theory.


We only had a cry because we have'nt won anything and were expecting to.

Now it would be churlish to mention Saddened, Harry Pinner and Div voicing concerns for the 2009 season, but hey..

Why let fact inconvenience Amber and Blue chip on t' shoulder.

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