Re Farrell and Sculthorpe, isn't the sad fact that both of them played their international careers largely surrounded by very poor players? As a result they were both asked to do things they shouldn't have been - i.e. carry the whole team on their shoulders. Farrell was everything a back row should be, plus with a bit of a rugby brain. The GB solution? Make him the playmaker. Not his fault. Sculthorpe was similarly hampered.

Anybody who knows anything about RL would say that neither would have been out of place playing for Australia. Sadly, their international records reflect the wider state of the game in England.

I find it funny that there are elements of truth in most of the comments made regards Gary Connelly .......and yet there is a lot of, less than accurate comments too.
It is water under the bridge now and should be let to lie (it wont be though). I always thought the chanting was OTT and during my time of standing in "compost corner" never once found myself able to rant along with others

Assume you're on about Connolly?? Would you really spit in his face and if you did, how daft would you feel after you woke up in hospital??

im telling you its a fact....he played for orrell st james and they were the best team in the country by a long way, followed by hindley then us blackbrook. we were a good team, but orrell used to put 30 or 40 on us nearly everytime we played. we played them in a lancashire cup game and roughed em up a bit, one of our second rowers called john henry gave him a big hit and it kicked off a bit on the pitch, then in the second half one of our props gave him a big hit and he knocked on, we formed the scrum and he was kicking his legs hard, so i chinned him, put him on his backside, it kicked off big time, his dad dragged him off the field having a go at the ref in doing so. we got beat 13-8 that day, but to us it was a victory. he wasnt even the best player at orrell, they had a big bugger called carney, and another called cairns i think if i remember right. one of em had a wopping desperate dan chin!!!

freddie fletcher was my coach. his son alan was our scrum half, i played with jay johnson, badger, bozzer, haughy if you know any of em.

I know John Henry and I was mates with carney.

Yes I know some of them, I played for north west counties with badger, jay Johnson and I beleive joey Harvey took Little flecs spot at 7.

I also know Chris cook.

yeah i know cookie.....badger, jay and jonh henry were my best mates at brook, cause we went to school together. did you play at brook then?

For short time.

I hated Billy 'Fat Belly' Boston, for the simple reason he could run in ankle deep mud.

And then there was the 'Terminator' Mick Cassidy, he never knew when to give up,,,,,,

And my all time hated Wigan player Joe Lydon, for simply being a poser...


Regards,
Jock.

PS, my Mother's side hate me coz they all come from Pemberton...

Just to chip in on the whole Farrell/Sculthorpe debate, since I'm struggling to concentrate on my OU.

If GB had a decent stand off, in 2001-04, I would have thought Scully at 13 and Faz at 12. Mainly because Faz would be more effective as a wide running second row. There is no mistaking Scully was the better running 13, like a large, old fashioned stand off, but Farrell had the better range of passing, kicking and was choosen as captain for a reason.

Summary Farrell was the more complete player and led a team, but Scully was exceptional at what he did. Let's face it they were both game changers and you'd have each in your dream team.

Oh and I'd go with:

Offiah - complete w@nker
Barrie Jon Mather - like Offiah, only in it for himself and never a team player.

Classic Bailey he was the ony player slagged off on here who was not a Wigan player,By the way it was not one of you lot who nicked 4 of his GF winners rings was it?

Actually no ........... in my dream team Scully gets in at 12, but Hanley would be my loose forward.