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| Quote: St pete "Meli asked to play wing and got his way
one of so many, i think she's trying to be a satarical poster like Saddened, but its not working
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Why is it silly? Meli has never been any good on the wing. Oh, he pulled out a performance on Sunday night, just as we all know he can against the big teams (except at Grand Finals). But then he disappears again. That's been the way with him since Anderson's time. I can very much see a whole bunch of egos directing play actually. Did Jon Wilkin play loose forward?'"
Mike rush and KC are no easy touch and will not be told what to do by any player.
They have worked with the players this week and both parties have had input but the last call is rush and KC.
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| Quote: St pete "They have worked with the players this week and both parties have had input but the last call is rush and KC.'"
All (senior) parties had an input into the job lot according to Mike Rush's interview in this week's League Weekly.
Like I said, let's see how well that goes if things get sticky!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Interesting. I don't know what position Brad Dwyer plays in but according to League Weekly, he sat on the bench for the full 80 minutes for Warrington on Friday night. I guess Tony Smith is no genius either?
Nor is Phil Veivers. He used only 16 players when Salford played us at Langtree Park. The back stayed on the bench, as did ours.'"
Well, everyone has an opinion don't they? For me playing a back on the bench is playing a man light in the modern game particularly in tough games, but some coaches might indeed prefer to have a back available to do a 1-for-1 swap if there's an injury. Each to their own. That still doesn't explain why we had Wheeler and Clough on the bench for the CC semi last year when they'd both only just come back from serious injury and couldn't have played (and indeed didn't play) more than 10 minutes of the game between them. I can appreciate the back on the bench as a tactical move to minimise disruption in the forwards if there's an injury (although I don't agree with it personally), but a coach that picks someone completely unfit and in no state to be able to play more than 10 minutes in that role is a coach that needs to be severely questioned in their methods.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Well, everyone has an opinion don't they? For me playing a back on the bench is playing a man light in the modern game particularly in tough games, but some coaches might indeed prefer to have a back available to do a 1-for-1 swap if there's an injury. Each to their own.'"
I think it was injury which drove Royce to be honest and I don't blame him, especially this season after last.
Quote: Northampton_Saint "That still doesn't explain why we had Wheeler and Clough on the bench for the CC semi last year when they'd both only just come back from serious injury and couldn't have played (and indeed didn't play) more than 10 minutes of the game between them. '"
Did he have much choice at that time? We were seriously hard pushed for troops all through the season. I honestly can't remember.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "All (senior) parties had an input into the job lot according to Mike Rush's interview in this week's League Weekly.
Like I said, let's see how well that goes if things get sticky!'"
I've not read any rugby paper but isn't that what I just said?
Just for the record, not all players are over the moon at Royce losing his job, the was a few that was disappointed but not many.
One played in the u20s before the game and stormed off the pitch without doing the walk around with his team mates after the game.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Why is it silly? Meli has never been any good on the wing.'"
No, he was just our best and most consistent player in that position over the whole of the 2009 and 2010 seasons (2009 GF brain explosion excepted) and our only threat out wide since Gidley's decline, that's all. But he made a lot of mistakes and was a bit pants in 2007 and 2008 which fits in nicely with our pre-formed opinions, so he must have been pants ever since, right?
God give me strength....
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| Quote: SaintsFan " ...I don't blame him...'"
Time for a change of signature????
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "No, he was just our best and most consistent player in that position over the whole of the 2009 and 2010 seasons (2009 GF brain explosion excepted) '"
He was our ONLY player in that position over the whole of 2009 and 2010 (left wing, just before you get y). Although he did play in centre for a bit during Potter's reign and most people on here were relieved when he did because he was a defensive nightmare and will continue to be so until the day he retires.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He was our ONLY player in that position over the whole of 2009 and 2010 (left wing, just before you get y). Although he did play in centre for a bit during Potter's reign and most people on here were relieved when he did because he was a defensive nightmare and will continue to be so until the day he retires.'"
OK..... I'll rephrase around your pedantry/denseness, whichever it is in this case.
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| Quote: diehardofowld "Dont you know by now that there is, and always will be, a section of spectators who watch Saints, who need to have a scapegoat ....Meli fits the bill and before him it was Gardner.....and so it goes forward. Stats show that the lad wasnt as bad as is painted but to the few, wooden head wooden leg comes to mind.
You can talk to a man with a wooden leg all day but a wooden head,mmmm ( just to clarify, I am not advocating the purchase of a lump hammer ..... but )'"
The game at Widnes against Wire last year typified the way these clueless fools think - Meli was our best player on the night by a mile, tackling and working like a demon, stopping a certain goalline try and generally being the only Saints player to take the fight to them in any remote way, shape or form. And yet, because he made one bad pass the whole night and ran the ball into touch once he was practically run out of town and blamed for costing us the game single-handedly on the wretched "other site"'s forums the day after. You can see them at games practically coiled waiting for every single mistake that their designated scapegoat is going to make and pouncing on every single one with vitriolic glee, conveniently ignoring all the good stuff on the way... I bet they're all grooming Foster as his long term replacement even as we speak.
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