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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think I agree but then a fully fit wello is safe as house under the high ball and in defence.'"
The OP stated that 'if Wello is injured' so my post was in response to there being no Wello to play.
However, if we widen it to include Wello then this season he will be at fullback regardless of Makinson or anybody else. I love Wello and we missed his ability to catch a bomb in the first half but next season I'd like to see Makinson there and not Wello.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"The OP stated that 'if Wello is injured' so my post was in response to there being no Wello to play.
However, if we widen it to include Wello then this season he will be at fullback regardless of Makinson or anybody else. I love Wello and we missed his ability to catch a bomb in the first half but next season I'd like to see Makinson there and not Wello.'"
I love wello, he's been great player and is top laugh off the pitch but his poor kick returns are massive problem for us but does his ability in defence and under the High ball outweigh that?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I love wello, he's been great player and is top laugh off the pitch but his poor kick returns are massive problem for us but does his ability in defence and under the High ball outweigh that?'"
Makinson is fabulous under the bomb. He also appears to have good instinct in positioning also. He is fearless when it comes to tackling. He has real, genuine pace. He can read a game and pass well - he set up one try on Friday. He displays good support play - he scored one try on Friday. The man is just turned 20. I think if we keep hold of Wello and risk losing Makinson that would be a terrible shame. Oh, and Makinson can also kick goals, which Wello definitely cannot!
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Makinson is fabulous under the bomb. He also appears to have good instinct in positioning also. He is fearless when it comes to tackling. He has real, genuine pace. He can read a game and pass well - he set up one try on Friday. He displays good support play - he scored one try on Friday. The man is just turned 20. I think if we keep hold of Wello and risk losing Makinson that would be a terrible shame. Oh, and Makinson can also kick goals, which Wello definitely cannot!'"
Why pick wello in front of him then?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Why pick wello in front of him then?'"
Personally, I wouldn't. Makinson's performance in the GF converted me. To play as he did as the youngest guy in the team under that much pressure in his first GF in his debut season was amazing. The lad is already a star in my view! But the fact is Wello is now sole captain, has been around forever, and no coach is going to drop him. However, should Wello find himself struggling with fitness this season then it's Makinson for me every day and Wello should be encouraged to retire at the end of this season with Makinson taking his place. Ashe would then be the stand in fullback.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Personally, I wouldn't. Makinson's performance in the GF converted me. To play as he did as the youngest guy in the team under that much pressure in his first GF in his debut season was amazing. The lad is already a star in my view! But the fact is Wello is now sole captain, has been around forever, and no coach is going to drop him. However, should Wello find himself struggling with fitness this season then it's Makinson for me every day and Wello should be encouraged to retire at the end of this season with Makinson taking his place. Ashe would then be the stand in fullback.'"
I agree.
Ashe looks like a very good confident player as well.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Makinson in at fullback for me. I wouldn't hesistate. That lad is quality. He needs to be on the pitch gaining valuable experience as much as possible.'"
totally agree
Wello may be safe but he's coming to the end of his career , Makinson is the future and the only way you get experience is by playing
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I agree.
Ashe looks like a very good confident player as well.'"
Would prefer Ashe to eventually be our Full Back. Makinson can play anywhere from 1 to 5, but I think his true position will be centre for the 2013 season. Meanwhile Royce has a problem in trying to get the right combination across that back line.
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| Wello wasn't safe under the high bomb at all last year, did he catch one at all?
I'd like to see Makinson there myself, but I think Hohaia may get the job to include a bit of experience in a play making role. I think the much reported evidence from Friday shows that Gaskell must start.
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| I would like to see Makinson as our first choice fullback this year. A definate international IMO. I like Wellens and he has been great for the club but he isn't as much of a threat as Makinson is anymore. My ideal 13 this year would be.
Makinson
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Wheeler
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Lomax
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| Quote lyono="lyono"I would like to see Makinson as our first choice fullback this year. A definate international IMO. I like Wellens and he has been great for the club but he isn't as much of a threat as Makinson is anymore. My ideal 13 this year would be.
Makinson
Foster
Shenton
Wheeler
Gardener
Hohaia
Lomax
Laffranchi
Roby
Lms
Flanagan
Soliola
Wilkin
Clough
Puletua
Perry
Meli'"
Decent team but for me Gaskell needs to be in there, I'd also like to see Ashe given a run out, he's really impressed me in his limited run outs. An experimental team I'd like to see:
Nathan Ashe
Tommy Makinson
Michael Shenton
Gary Wheeler
Ade Gardner / Jamie Foster
Lee Gaskell
Jonny Lomax
Josh Perry
James Roby
LMS
Mark Flanagan
Jon Wilkin
Anthony Laffrinchi
Sia Soliola
Tony Puletua
Paul Clough
Lance Hohaia
Although I'd start with Lance on the bench I'd want to use him as much as possible rotating in and out of the Hooker and Half back roles. Whilst this probably wouldn't be what I'd choose as a 13, I wouldn't mind seeing it tried out.
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| Makinson at fullback, Gaskell at 6 and Lomax at 7 are essentials for me. I will personally organise the first 'Sack the board' riots if we start the season with Wello at 1.
Wellens, as much as I love him for his efforts over the years, is awful. He is easily the worst fullback in the league and contributes nothing. He can't judge high kicks, he cost us tries several times in crucial games last season. He doesn't contribute to the attack, doesn't chime into the line and never beats the first man from kicks.
His time is up.
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