We need a top class coach.

The difference between us and Wigan is not in the players, its in the coaching.

They have a bloke who is AAA rated, ours is a bloke who failed in his two senior coaching jobs and has spent the last decade saying "yes boss"

Time will tell if Royce can improve us. Year 2 will be interesting.

I have a lot of time for Simmons and think he's done really well given the hand he's been dealt this season, but also agree that he probably lacks the x factor to turn a team from great runners up to champions. I cant honestly see us winning anything with him in charge

Why can't we turn ball carriers onto their back whilst Wigoon and Wire can? That's not the players fault. Why aren't they being coached to do it? That has nothing to do with guile, pace or attacking nous. Our defence isn't good enough.

I can see what your saying. Wigan have improved 109% under maguire and I've no doubt in my mind it's down to coaching but to he fair to Royce he's had awful luck with injuries.

We had a near enough full strength side out today and yet we were still comfortably second best.

It's the same move everytime, that's down to coaching.

Its not fair to bag Royce as he's had a tough time this year with injuries, Graham saga on moving, eastmond saga and also lost his dad so he's had a tough first year.

I don't expect him to be here longer than the two years he's signed for tho.

The injury situation has been an excuse, sometimes its been a pretty valid one, but on the whole its been nothing more than an excuse.

Today we were at pretty much full strength and were comprehensively outplayed.

Given our move into a new stadium can we really afford to mediocre again next year? Our squad is good enough to push for a top two spot and I'm sure that Maguire or Smith would love to have our pack at their disposal.

I'll be honest, Im pretty shocked at our recruitment for a team moving into a brand new stadium.

The lack of fitness and pace since DA left is a big problem but our lack of moves and tactics today must be down to the coach. Tony puletua must be shattered after today's game, same move every play up the middle.

BUT IN FAIRNESS WE HAVENT PLAYED A FULL(ISH) STRENGTH TEAM FOR A WHILE WHEREAS WIGAN / WIRE HAVE. IF WE CAN KEEP TO FULL STRENGTH THEN THE PLAYOFFS COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT

Praise the Lord - someone else has seen the light.

next year i'd put lomax at fullback and lance at 7. think if leon goes we should definately sign another halfback.

Maybe the fitness training is the problem? Most of the posts refer to "bad luck with injuries" - could be that the strength & conditioning regime needs looking at?