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Quote: Sadfish "I've had numerous chats over the years over how it is possible for the strorm to have the quality of players they have under a restricted cap.'"

they have also been very clever(sneaky) letting many world class players leave! plus the Brett finich is playing for pea nuts story.

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Quote: Saddened! "Makes you wonder how many Super League sides are also doing this. Given the general incompetence of the RFL it wouldn't surprise me at all.'"

I would imagine very few! as has already been hinted at club officals, owners accountents, players may well see jail time for this. This is massive and only the first story out of the club! I'm sure the Aussie inland revenue and fraud office will be seeing a few people. not many in the game in the nrl or sl are this stupid/brave/corrupt.

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It's interesting that all the grief is being aimed at the management when presumably the players knew they were getting off the record money. I don't see how the players could have been unaware of what was going on so they are complicit yet seem not to have been punished.

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Quote: Harry Pinner "It's interesting that all the grief is being aimed at the management when presumably the players knew they were getting off the record money. I don't see how the players could have been unaware of what was going on so they are complicit yet seem not to have been punished.'"


I've not read any reports but my only guess at how any players could be innocent would be if the board told each player to keep their salary details to themselves and make a few of them think they are the highest earner at the club.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "I've not read any reports but my only guess at how any players could be innocent would be if the board told each player to keep their salary details to themselves and make a few of them think they are the highest earner at the club.'"


No, the players apparently all had two contracts. One for the cap auditors and one for the 'other file'.

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Quote: Saddened! "No, the players apparently all had two contracts. One for the cap auditors and one for the 'other file'.'"


Wouldn't the other contract be illegal? so how could it be a contract?

Or is it just a contract with the club to pay then X amount.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Wouldn't the other contract be illegal? so how could it be a contract?

Or is it just a contract with the club to pay then X amount.'"


God knows, I'm just going off the articles I've read. I'm sure it'll all come out in the fallout.

It states there were contracts at the club offices and different contracts to reflect the higher payments that were actually made to them which were kept at the CEO's house.

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Adam Blair would do nicely.

The only way I could conceivably see the likes of Slater, Inglis or Smith coming over to SL is if they feel the need to escape the limelight a la Jamie Lyon. But then they could just as easily do that in French RU for twice the cash.

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Shame the RFL didn't have the balls to hand out such punishments as those in charge an the NRL.

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Quote: Enicomb "Shame the RFL didn't have the balls to hand out such punishments as those in charge an the NRL.'"


The overspends by winning teams in SL haven't been anything like as enormous, persistent or deliberately underhand. There is no comparison.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Wouldn't the other contract be illegal? so how could it be a contract?

Or is it just a contract with the club to pay then X amount.'"



Are there any tax implications regarding this? If the players have been paid, on the quiet are they paying tax on it?

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A Jeff Lima or Adam Blair is somethign we need at saints more than ever.
We don't need Cam Smith as we already have two good hookers in Roby and Moore.
Inglis probably wonn't leave or he will go for another NRL club in the spotlight,
Slater will do the same.

The players will move around the NRL rather than anywhere else i think

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Quote: Ande "A Jeff Lima or Adam Blair is somethign we need at saints more than ever.
We don't need Cam Smith as we already have two good hookers in Roby and Moore.
Inglis probably wonn't leave or he will go for another NRL club in the spotlight,
Slater will do the same.

The players will move around the NRL rather than anywhere else i think'"

why are players leaving?

and just for the record cam smith is so much better than moor and roby it's silly he is arguably the best player in the world! ever team in rugby would dream of a player like smith. can't agree that saints don't need a player of that class. saints like Leeds and are hardley blessed with genuine world class talent let alone one of the modern greats.

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Quote: sgtwilko "why are players leaving?

and just for the record cam smith is so much better than moor and roby it's silly he is arguably the best player in the world! ever team in rugby would dream of a player like smith. can't agree that saints don't need a player of that class. saints like Leeds and are hardley blessed with genuine world class talent let alone one of the modern greats.'"


He didnt say cam smith wasnt better. he was just saying that hooker isnt an area we need to strengthen

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Quote: Enicomb "Shame the RFL didn't have the balls to hand out such punishments as those in charge an the NRL.'"


It's much easier to hand that kind of punishment out when there is no relegation.

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