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| The good news is that wellens won't be tying up a bench spot this weekicon_wink.gif
Might be a good time to give Dougie Charnock a run.
Can't see what Wilkin playing at 7 provides other than treading water.
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| Quote: Gerry Mander "The good news is that wellens won't be tying up a bench spot this week
I thought Wilkin was excellent last season filling in at 7. I dread to see how we'd do if we didn't have him.
Just hope wello ain't stand off
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| Quote: St pete "I thought Wilkin was excellent last season filling in at 7. I dread to see how we'd do if we didn't have him.
Just hope wello ain't stand off
Lomax
Makinson jones wheeler swift
Lance Wilkin/ Charnock
Amor Roby Masoe
Flanaghan Manu
Wellens
Laffranchi Richards Walker Savelio/Dawson/Charnock
Should be strong enough to see us through Wakefield, and then those who can be slotted in for Leeds, can be
The sad news about lms' ban is that it will break his run of consecutive games.
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Lomax
Makinson jones wheeler swift
Lance Wilkin/ Charnock
Amor Roby Masoe
Flanaghan Manu
Wellens
Laffranchi Richards Walker Savelio/Dawson/Charnock
Should be strong enough to see us through Wakefield.'"
That's pretty arrogant. That team beating Wakefield would be a cracking result. Wakefield beat Catalans 56-14, we beat them 40-22 the following week. They are not the easy beats they used to be, and even then we often found it hard there.
Sammut and Godinet are better than our halves, Scruton and Tautai are more than capable of causing problems and their backrow of Lauititi, Kirmond, Ryan and Washbrook are no mugs either.
Funny though, despite all the players missing, Wellens still wouldn't get in that team on merit.
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| Quote: St pete "I thought Wilkin was excellent last season filling in at 7. I dread to see how we'd do if we didn't have him.
Just hope wello ain't stand off
Wilkin did do a good job. The season was a right off and there was nobody anywhere near ready.
But that was then.
Now the gap is short term(ish) and its early in the season. Time to blood some yoof?
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| Quote: Saddened! "That's pretty arrogant. That team beating Wakefield would be a cracking result. Wakefield beat Catalans 56-14, we beat them 40-22 the following week. They are not the easy beats they used to be, and even then we often found it hard there.
Sammut and Godinet are better than our halves, Scruton and Tautai are more than capable of causing problems and their backrow of Lauititi, Kirmond, Ryan and Washbrook are no mugs either.
Funny though, despite all the players missing, Wellens still wouldn't get in that team on merit.'"
So it's arrogant to think there's enough talent in that team to think we should beat Wakefield, but an ex international STILL isn't talented enough to make the squad? Contrary much?
Edit: the team I posted is hardly lacking in experience, and my half back pairing is the same one that beat Wakefield at Wakefield last year. We should have the quality still to win. Wakefield have had a decent run of results, and recruited well and should see them comfortably safe, and potentially more. But we should still have enough to see the game through. It would be arrogant to say we are definitely gonna win, but I didn't do that. (I'm not even gonna start on the "they beat Catalans by more so must be better than us" warped logic)
We don't become the worst team in the league because were missing a few players. Even if we lose, it's not season over.
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| Brown seems to be talking about Dawson.
So I wonder if Dawson will come in for turner and Wheeler move to 7?
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| I'd go with
Lomax
Makinson
Dawson
Wheeler
Swift
Lance
Wilkin
Amor
Roby
Laffranchi
Flanaghan
Manu
Jones
Wello
Mose
Walker
Richards
Time for Walker. Richards and Dawson to show brown they good enough for the first team.
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| There is one thing that youth does bring to a team and that's enthusiasm. Experienced players may see just another game, the new boys see an opportunity to show their wares.
Assuming worst case scenario for next week, I reckon...
Pete's team is a good bet, although I'm not sure whether Brown will go with Wheeler and Jones in the centre and Wellens at loose.
Personally I'd like to see Wheeler back at 6. Jones and Dawson in the centre. Lance as utility on the bench. Lance has not impressed me any more this year along side Walsh than he did the other 2 years. He still dashed out the line a couple of times last game and just does not seem to have Wheelers threat with ball in hand.
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| Quote: St pete "I'd go with
Lomax
Makinson
Dawson
Wheeler
Swift
Lance
Wilkin
Amor
Roby
Laffranchi
Flanaghan
Manu
Jones
Wello
Mose
Walker
Richards
Time for Walker. Richards and Dawson to show brown they good enough for the first team.'"
Quite happy with that, perhaps i'd rather see Wheels in the halves and Lance at centre, but thats about it
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Quite happy with that, perhaps i'd rather see Wheels in the halves and Lance at centre, but thats about it'"
Wheeler more experience at centre as played most of his injury hit career there. Lance played more games at 6 so that was my thinking behind it.
I'll prob know the team on Thursday. If wello is in the halves I'm not going. I just can't stand seeing him play in the halves, it's awful!
We could even play wello fullback and lomax 7.
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| Quote: St pete "Wheeler more experience at centre as played most of his injury hit career there. Lance played more games at 6 so that was my thinking behind it.
I'll prob know the team on Thursday. If wello is in the halves I'm not going. I just can't stand seeing him play in the halves, it's awful!
We could even play wello fullback and lomax 7.'"
The days of Wello playing fullback must surely be over? His kick returns would cost us 20m per set as well. We would probably get to see the return of his Big Bird impression however as he arrives on the scene as the referee is blowing for the try.
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| Quote: St pete "Wheeler more experience at centre as played most of his injury hit career there. Lance played more games at 6 so that was my thinking behind it.
I'll prob know the team on Thursday. If wello is in the halves I'm not going. I just can't stand seeing him play in the halves, it's awful!
We could even play wello fullback and lomax 7.'"
I see your thinking, i just think Wheeler is more creative and Lance a better defender. Of course we could have Lance to full back and J-Lo in the halves but i think he's less effective there
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| I'd go:
Lomax
Makinson
Dawson
Jones
Swift
Wheeler
Hohaia
Amor
Roby
Walker
Flanagan
Wilkin
Wellens
Masoe
Manu
Laffranchi
Richards/Greenwood
Despite the injuries, I think that should be enough to beat Wakefield, without underestimating them.
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| Quote: St. Rughead "I'd go
No ball player in the halves and no kicking game. Wilkin has to 100% play in the halves. He will direct us and dictate play. He's no great halfback but he can do a job leading us round the park.
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