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| Gutted if this is true.
Good luck to big red if it is.
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| Let's be honest - who in here didn't harbour a faint suspicion Jammer would go to Oz?
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| Quote: Codarmysaint "Remind me again how many games Burgess or James Graham have played in the NRL. Ahh but they arent wiganers are they so its different'"
Nothing to do with it. The lad has very little first team experiance even at wigoon. His debut was last June in the 1st team wasn't it?
Has he played for GB / England seniors yet.
You can't compare him just yet. Hopefully he will become a great player for England but its still early days.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Let's be honest - who in here didn't harbour a faint suspicion Jammer would go to Oz?'"
His skin. He would be the first player ever to be sponsored by a sun lotion.
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| Whilst the end result wouldn't come as a great shock to any of us, there are no quotes or anything in the article. Until one of the clubs confirm a deal, it's just rumour.
If James Graham left us we would be screwed. We'd have to recruit some top quality props to replace him as he does the work of two excellent forwards. Not only that, but he wears his heart on his sleeve. He gives everything for this club and that enthusiasm and passion aren't easy to replace.
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| [i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i
-- Jack Gibson
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| Quote: Mugwump "[i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i
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he didnt know James Graham though.
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| Good luck to him if he goes. He'll find it's no better than Maghull though
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "he didnt know James Graham though.'"
No. But he did know Wally Lewis, Brett Kenny, Peter Sterling, Paul Sironen, Wayne Pearce, Steve Mortimer, Noel Cleal, Eric Grothe ...
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| Quote: Saddened! "Scully certainly wasn't at that level by the time he left. We lost him in installments.
Joynt retired and again wasn't all that hot when he retired. Perelini was a fine player but again we'd had the best of him. Fairleigh and Lyon were outstanding overseas players, but you never keep those players for long anyway.
I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.'"
I dont know - I remember watching Alan Hunte and a few others make pretty poor replacements in the number 3 shirt when we lost Connolly - we suffered but we survived and it started to look up again ONLY when we invested in some quality players like Goulding, Newlove and Gibbs. The big problem we have in losing Jammer is if we think we can replace him with someone like Emmitt or Bryn , then were in the sh*t
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| Quote: Mugwump "No. But he did know Wally Lewis, Brett Kenny, Peter Sterling, Paul Sironen, Wayne Pearce, Steve Mortimer, Noel Cleal, Eric Grothe ...'"
It's alot easier to throw a quote like his around when your looking at the NRL talent pool.....
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| Quote: Mugwump "[i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i
-- Jack Gibson'"
Perhaps not, but the problem is that we've been a prop short for four years now anyway even with Jammer in the side (we've been getting away with it in the main [ibecause[/i Jammer is in the side). If he were to leave we would need to sign two absolutely top quality prop forwards, and given our inability to secure one over the last four years I wouldn't be too confident.
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| But FWIW the Australian press has a habit of making up a load of old cock whenever it feels like it, so I'd hang fire before hitting the panic button.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "It's alot easier to throw a quote like his around when your looking at the NRL talent pool.....'"
Jack Gibson (BOW to your phucking KNEES when I utter his name) knew more about RL than the entire collection of posters to this forum put together (excluding me, of course).
He's right. Graham is not irreplaceable - provided McManus has his head screwed on. It may be a case of buying like for like (Graham is one of our highest earners, so it's not like we'll be short of cash), or we may have to strengthen in other positions - perhaps split the money between a veteran Aussie or Kiwi prop on the verge of retirement (something like Fairleigh) and a young, promising and BIG southern hemisphere back row forward. Or split the money between two simply GOOD props. Or take the riskier option of trying to lure a genuine hot- stand-off to pair with Eastmond and hope their combined talents can offset the loss of forward power. There are always ways and means. You just need to be smart enough to spot them. IS McManus smart enough?
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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| Quote: Codarmysaint "We will be like wigan circa 1999. One last hoorah then years of medocricy. Swings and roundabouts though. You cant be the best forever and its our turn to once again be mid tablers.'"
I think you will have 2 bad years like we did.
05 and 06 were bad but for the last few years we have finished 3rd. Our recovery has not been as bad as some people think.
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