i think a wire fan mentioning the salary cap a bit rich

Shenton is halfway through a three-year contract at St Helens but is thought to have been given permission to talk to other clubs and Hull and Hull KR could both rival the Tigers for his signature. "We're in the market for any good centres and obviously he comes into that category but we're not advanced in any talks with Michael," said Millward. "Our priority is to sign two centres and we're very active in the market place." www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... w-recruits

Shenton is halfway through a three-year contract at St Helens but is thought to have been given permission to talk to other clubs and Hull and Hull KR could both rival the Tigers for his signature. "We're in the market for any good centres and obviously he comes into that category but we're not advanced in any talks with Michael," said Millward. "Our priority is to sign two centres and we're very active in the market place." www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... w-recruits

I'd imagine our highest earners are probably some of our poorest performers, but I have no sneaky talks in the pub to back this up.

ie Perry, Lance, Shenton, LMS, (Roby, TP, Sia)

Getting the first 3 off the cap at the end of the year would do us a world of good certainly provided we can get another prop and centre from somewhere who can do a job and be a bit more VFM. I would imagine that LMS is on less than any of those other names (and LeFrank) and has looked really good in flashes - he might come good yet.

The ones in brackets are because I don't rate them as under performing. LMS I'm still not certain on, sometimes is barn storming other times is annonymous, so I'm fair to middling on LMS

Maybe that is what is meant by McManus telling Brown he will open his chequebook. He will pay off the contracts of all the duff signings we've made over the last few seasons.

I don't think we'll shift anyone out who is on contract unless they get a deal lined up somewhere else.

Agree with most of what you are saying, but he hasn't looked good in attack - probably because as you say, we won't pass to the right. Our HBs' arms don't seem capable of being able to pass in any other direction than left. It was especially obvious last week - even JD mentioned it.

Not convinced Turner would offer anything better and he won't be able to prove whether he is any good or not because we won't pass that way so he will see no ball.

Get Turner playing at left centre and he will make a real difference. When he's played there for us he's scored some great tries and Tom Briscoe has had some good service, which he doesn't always get from Yeaman.

@James_SmailesCas offered a deal to match what he's on at Saints[/i

Clearly, quite a few teams are of the opinion that Shenton offers far more than he has delivered at Saints, and are prepared to pay for it. Which begs the question, why have Saints not got the best out of him? Is it purely because we can't pass that way? Should we try him on the left to see if he is any better? Seems a shame to lose what cold be a potent attacking player, simply because we have used him wrong.

No offence intended, but the likes of Castleford and Hull KR are not great teams and they are the only teams (that we know of) who are really interested; it says a lot IMO