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| Quote: St pete "I won't bother listening to wello on the pod cast after seeing his interview on sky about Royce being sacked.'"
No, of course you won't. It wouldn't be convenient for your argument.
Quote: St pete "In his interview he came across all sad that Royce had gone ![]()
He was one of the players who went to visit Royce on Sunday evening, to thank him for making him captain of his home town club. I very much doubt he was acting.
And remember, two players came to Saints in part because Royce was in charge here. Laffranchi is one of them, he's on the podcast too, and he says he is upset because of his relationship with Royce.
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Not sure how much " on field guidance" pryce gave last year, he was barely on the field himself.'"
He guided himself to a seat in the stand not to mention a fat contract with Catalans |
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Not sure how much " on field guidance" pryce gave last year, he was barely on the field himself.'"
According to a couple of the inexperienced lads he (and Jammer) gave a lot of advice. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "No, of course you won't. It wouldn't be convenient for your argument.
He was one of the players who went to visit Royce on Sunday evening, to thank him for making him captain of his home town club. I very much doubt he was acting.
And remember, two players came to Saints in part because Royce was in charge here. Laffranchi is one of them, he's on the podcast too, and he says he is upset because of his relationship with Royce.'"
Your correct, wello dud thank him for making him captain of his home town club and rightly so he should thank him as its a great honour for any local lad to captain his town but I feel you don't know all the ins and outs of the last week and half running up to Royce being sacked. |
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| Quote: St pete "but I feel you don't know all the ins and outs of the last week and half running up to Royce being sacked.'"
And of course you do.  Not too many posts back it was all about the performance and style of rugby. Now there is something going on behind the scenes that I don't know about but you do? C'mon Pete. Even for you that's a bit obvious! |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "And of course you do. ![]()
Yes I do know what went on behind the scenes over the last week and half and to be honest I'm glad it went on or we'd still have thus clueless clown coaching the team.
To say that KC could lose his god like status at saints by helping out mike rush is just laughable and it's nothing like murphy being remembered as a bad coach and not great player.
Alex was the fulltime coach, KC has been asked to assist rush as we are in massive trouble. I'd say KC might have lost his god like status if he'd refused to help the club he's loved since he was born.
Your just trying to deflect future Blame on KC and rush if we lose as you was a Royce Simmons fan because you liked his first interview.
How you can be so blind to fact that Royce was the worst coaching appomitnent this club have made for the past 20 years is unreal. You called potter a cardboard cut out but all I've seen for past year and half is a clueless man stood in the back ground of KP and looking very very confused.
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| Quote: St pete "Yes I do know what went on behind the scenes over the last week and half and to be honest I'm glad it went on or we'd still have thus clueless clown coaching the team.'"
Well, you know what, so do I. I know someone who knows the players well. So there.
Quote: St pete "To say that KC could lose his god like status at saints by helping out mike rush is just laughable and it's nothing like murphy being remembered as a bad coach and not great player.'"
You think KC is immune to the fickleness of fans? You are either very niaive or very stupid.
Quote: St pete "Your just trying to deflect future Blame on KC and rush if we lose as you was a Royce Simmons fan because you liked his first interview.'"
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I don't know anyone who knows the players, I just know them personally 
Providing you "buddy" does know what went on then you'll see why I'm not going to listen to the wello podcast.
No way will KC lose any respect with the fans for what he's done for us on the pitch, no way at all!
McManus sacked millward for off the fieid reasons and not for on the fieid reasons. In fact when and who was the last coach to be sacked for poor results? |
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| Quote: St pete "No way will KC lose any respect with the fans for what he's done for us on the pitch, no way at all!'"
You reckon? Hold that thought if things go wrong!
Quote: St pete "McManus sacked millward for off the fieid reasons and not for on the fieid reasons. In fact when and who was the last coach to be sacked for poor results?'"
Does anyone actually know the real reason for Millward being sacked? Personally my theory is that McManus didn't like him. That would be all that was necessary for McManus to sack someone.
Was Eric Hughes sacked for results? I can't remember. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You reckon? Hold that thought if things go wrong!
Does anyone actually know the real reason for Millward being sacked? Personally my theory is that McManus didn't like him. That would be all that was necessary for McManus to sack someone.
Was Eric Hughes sacked for results? I can't remember.'"
I think Ian millward thought he'd become bigger than the club and was untouchable with the things he was doing. Players was also starting to get embarrassed by some of the field stuff.
I think it was Eric Hughes that was last coach sacked for results. Hughes has tough job at the time and is nice fella. |
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| Quote: St pete "I think Ian millward thought he'd become bigger than the club and was untouchable with the things he was doing. Players was also starting to get embarrassed by some of the field stuff.'"
From what Ian Millward said once in an article in the trade press, the problem was solely between him and McManus.
Quote: St pete "I think it was Eric Hughes that was last coach sacked for results. Hughes has tough job at the time and is nice fella.'"
Ditto for Royce Simmons. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "From what Ian Millward said once in an article in the trade press, the problem was solely between him and McManus.
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The problem was Millward had gone completely off the rails. |
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| Quote: Mugwump "The problem was Millward had gone completely off the rails.'"
Is that fact or supposition? And if it is fact, what exactly does 'off the rails' mean? Just asking as I don't know on either count. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Is that fact or supposition? And if it is fact, what exactly does 'off the rails' mean? Just asking as I don't know on either count.'" |
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Again, is that fact or supposition?
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