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Quote: SaintsFan "Not really. There was a mass brawl happening. I'm sure lots of people got blood on them. A game of rugby league had been happening just before the mass brawl and most players get blood on them as a result of the game, never mind a mass brawl.

A bite mark on Slater's ear would indeed be damming. However, Slater/Melbourne Storm has opted not to produce any pictoral evidence to present to the disciplinary committee.'"


Most players dont get blood on them though otherwise they would be constantly swapping shirts and being taken from the pitch for treatment,Slater has blood on his ear,there are pictures of Slater with blood on his ear,what are the odds of getting blood there by accident when no other player in that brawl was cut ?

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Quote: Smurf "Of course he had a nibble. It was plain to see.

But, where does it say he has plead or is pleading guilty? Are you a Sun or Daily Mail reader who can't decipher between a sensationalist storyline and what has actually happened? As far as I see it, Canterbury nor Graham have said anything.'"


Ok he is expected to plead guilty

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Quote: brook40 "Most players dont get blood on them though otherwise they would be constantly swapping shirts and being taken from the pitch for treatment,Slater has blood on his ear,there are pictures of Slater with blood on his ear,what are the odds of getting blood there by accident when no other player in that brawl was cut ?'"

How do you know no other players in the brawl were cut? YOu have no idea whether they were or not because nobody took a picture of anybody else did they?

And where did these pictures of Slater's ear come from anyway? I've seen two now, and they look different from each other.

And how do we know they are true representations of the injury? He isn't presenting any pictoral evidence at the hearing and so all that is available is what is flying around the Internet. How reliable are pictures found on the Internet?

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Quote: brook40 "Ok he is expected to plead guilty'"

Wrong again.

A certain Australian newspaper in their online article has posited that he is expected to plead guilty. That is all.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Wrong again.

A certain Australian newspaper in their online article has posited that he is expected to plead guilty. That is all.'"


So basically you have just said what i said ? Im stumped as to why you highlighted expeted to plead guilty and then you yourself puts expected to plead guilty,that makes no sense.

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Quote: brook40 "So basically you have just said what i said ? Im stumped as to why you highlighted expeted to plead guilty and then you yourself puts expected to plead guilty,that makes no sense.'"

Because it is ONE PAPER who is saying that he is expected to plead guilty.

Nobody else has said anything of the sort.

By just stating that he is expected to plead guilty you are giving the impression that that is fact. It isn't. It's just one paper speculating.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Because it is ONE PAPER who is saying that he is expected to plead guilty.

Nobody else has said anything of the sort.

By just stating that he is expected to plead guilty you are giving the impression that that is fact. It isn't. It's just one paper speculating.'"



Only one paper ? no they all are and not without reason.Anyway im done talking to you,as usual your head in the sand approach to anything is annoying.

It does not matter what any of us think as non of us infuence the panel that will sit on this case,that majority of people that saw the incident think there was a bite and if the majority of the panel think the same,conclusive evidence or not then there will be a ban.The only thing Jammer could say is he isnt a dirty player and it was a spur of the moment rush of blood.

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Quote: brook40 "Only one paper ? no they all are and not without reason.Anyway im done talking to you,as usual your head in the sand approach to anything is annoying.'"

I always know when people are getting desperate as they resort to stupid personal insults.

I take it you have read all the Australian papers then. Well done you!

I prefer to wait until the verdict has been announced by the NRL before condemning someone when the evidence provided is in fact inconclusive. Unlike you and some others, I have no wish to be part of the lynch mob.

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Quote: William Eve "Got any straw left for construction purposes? I haven't painted Bailey as a model professional at all. In fact I don't particularly rate him as highly as many Leeds fans do. Doesn't put in the hits or make sufficient meters for my liking. Very good at the niggly stuff and getting under opposition players skin though. Just ask the incessantly whining John Wilkin and he'll confirm that.

I simply asked you to provide evidence of Bailey's track record on untoward behaviour such as biting. You chose to make an example of him as having a clear track record of having indulged in similar - if not worse - and then by association, placed him on a par with Hock (gouging). Now I'm quite sure that Bailey has no clear track record of ever biting or gouging any other player on the pitch - unlike Hock - or as will become apparent fairly soon in the case of Graham.

Your belated two word reference to Bailey's teenage spell in a youth offenders unit for street brawling outside a nightclub alongside three other players dishing it out among themselves is further evidence of your desperate argument.
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Ryans appearances before the RFL disciplinary since 2008 including intentional striking with the elbow, striking with the knees and a physical assault on a referee.

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James Graham over the same period, dissent, dangerous tackle and a strike with the forearm where he was considered not guilty - it was a different St Helens player.

ON/841/11 James Graham St Helens St Helens v Salford 02/09/11
ON/310/08 James Graham & Chris Flannery St Helens Hull V St Helens 24/05/08
ON/97/08 James Graham St Helens St Helens v Wakefield 02/03/08


Do you need any more straws? Point proven, Bailey has a track record when it comes to his reputation and an incident involving Graham is more surprising as it is out of character. Is that in plain english enough for you or is it still a little bit too difficult you to understand??


Quote: William Eve "Your presentation at Lancashire CCC prior to last years GF was more impressive than what you've presented here. Hope you enjoyed your free ticket and goody bag
I have absolutely no idea what this has got to do with anything but in answer to your question, yes, I had a great time at the Grand Final as a guest of Engage. I had a fantastic meal in the exec box and great seats to watch the game.....but then I guess you would already know that.

Im genuinely made up that I have a stalker! icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: SaintsFan "I prefer to wait until the verdict has been announced by the NRL before condemning someone when the evidence provided is in fact inconclusive. Unlike you and some others, I have no wish to be part of the lynch mob.'"


I think you are being far to sensitive and protective! are you telling me of all the live games you have been to you have never shouted high tackle or trip ref! that is making a judgement on what you have seen! You are being emotive with the use of lynch mob.

What is good these days is that most games are filmed even when not on TV, but being such an high profile final there would be camera's at all angles, with video you can watch over and over again and it looks highly suspicious when you look at Graham's face and the anger with his mouth open and going towards Slater's ear.

Are you saying then when Slater went to the referee and showed the blood coming from his ear he had made it up? to get a fellow professional into very serious trouble.

We are not judge and jury, that will be decided Thursday this week, but the evidence does not look good but that is just opinion and forums like this have plenty of that whatever you may thing. It just shocks me with James Graham.

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Jammer is doomed, he will either need telepathic control of the judiciary or the services of Johnnie Cochrane. I mean I think he's probably one of the best players in the world, but there really is no defence to what was on the video!
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Quote: hooperman "Jammer is doomed, he will either need telepathic control of the judiciary or the services of Johnnie Cochrane. I mean I think he's probably one of the best players in the world, but there really is no defence to what was on the video!'"
It has to be the Chewbacca defense then, doesn't it?

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ON/748/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Catalans v Leeds 21/09/12
ON/662/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Catalan v Leeds 18/08/12
ON/588/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Hull KR v Leeds 05/08/12
ON/589/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Hull KR v Leeds 05/08/12
ON/543/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v Bradford 20/07/12
ON/423/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v Wigan 01/06/12
ON/387/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v St Helens 21/05/12
ON/121/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v Warrington 09/03/12
ON/27/12 Ryan Bailey Leeds Wigan v Leeds 11/02/12
ON/922/11 Ryan Bailey Leeds Huddersfield v Leeds 23/09/11
ON/909/11 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v Hull FC 18/09/11
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ON/252/11 Ryan Bailey Leeds Leeds v Huddersfield 15/04/11
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James Graham over the same period, dissent, dangerous tackle and a strike with the forearm where he was considered not guilty - it was a different St Helens player.

ON/841/11 James Graham St Helens St Helens v Salford 02/09/11
ON/310/08 James Graham & Chris Flannery St Helens Hull V St Helens 24/05/08
ON/97/08 James Graham St Helens St Helens v Wakefield 02/03/08

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For those of you who think I'm just arguing for the sake of it (ie most of you), take a look at rlthis report.rl

Could it possibly be that Slater is telling porkies?

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Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
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SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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