It's pretty obvious you measure how good a coach is by how much he wins.

No. [iYou[/i think that. I don't. And I have said so on here quite clearly, many times. I've been very clear. My concern all along has been our performances. Winning is great, no doubt about that. But I go each week to enjoy my rugby league whether we win or not. And I've said that more than once. And been dumped on each time for it too. But that doesn't change what I've written on here.

I think you should all be pleased with Potter we've had to put up with the new England coach for 4 years.

Look at Warrington under Cullen. They had loads of talented players yet failed to deliver success or a high place in the table.

Spot on.

Yep. The same team, with the addition of Atkins and Mathers, is fantastic under Smith. Just my point. A good coach really does make a difference. What we would have been like to watch this season with a good coach is just too much to think about because it makes me want to cry.

Potter is a good coach. He may not be the best coach in the league, but he is a good coach, hence our position in the league, our competitiveness in the big games and our run in the Cup / Play Offs.

You can't just have talented players, you need a coach to give them direction and Potter has done a pretty good job at that.

And Solomona and Myler

I disagree. Not about our position in the league, obviously, or our desire to compete with our closest rivals, but about Potter being a good coach. Wire and Wigan have been competitive in all their matches, even those they have lost. We have played too poorly too often, even when we have had a lot of senior players in the team - like against Crusaders in the first half - for me to believe that Potter is a good coach. We haven't even had any real Millward-esque games to compensate.


I disagree. (No surprise there!) We haven't really had direction all season and people on here have commented upon that so it isn't only me who takes that position.

Indeed. I forgot about those two. But take a look at the four new players in Smith's squad. Did people think much of Atkins when he was at Wakey? And what did Wigan fans say about Mathers? And Bradford fans on RLFans have wondered recently how come Solomona didn't play as well for them as he has been doing for Warrington? Richie Myler is just lost in a team of players who are finally achieving their potential. Because they have a good coach.

Potter is a good coach and this year looks to have settled in which has improved the performance on the pitch( 2nd in the league, scored more tries and more points than any team).

He seems to have got the best out of the team this year which for most of the year has lacked any centres, any halfbacks and a very young backrow.

I'd like to have seen just how far potter would have took us if he had stayed.

I'd be pretty shocked if he's not in the 3 for coach of the year.

How do you come by those conclusions? He's settled in? How so? And what are you comparing our performances this season with? Last season? The season before? And what do you consider to be an improvement in performance?

I think our attack has improved a hell of alot this year and the performances have also improved a hell of alot.

I think your forgetting we have played this year without centres, a halfback or two halfbacks.

We lost sia which was our only signing all season.

He's done a fantastic job, without a doubt.

But what are you comparing those performances with? To have an improvement you must be using a comparison.


Not true. We have played a couple of games without both recognised centres but in most of our other games we have had at least one recognised centre in Gidley and the other centre spot has been filled either by Wheeler, who had already experienced centre position last season, or Meli (a recognised centre) or Dean (a recognised centre). And we have played most of our games with both our halfbacks. Of the remaining games we have played with one halfback unless you count Moore as a halfback, which is what he was prior to going on loan. On only two occasions have we started and finished with no recognised halfbacks.


We lost him so long ago and so completely that I don't think he's been missed at all. He simply wasn't around long enough to be missed. It's just like last season in that respect.


If you want to think so then you are entitled! I disagree, is all.

We have made a improvement on last year under potter.

Meli is not a recognised centre. Wheeler has played about 10 games all season. We only have one recognised centre at the club in gidley, this year we've had gidley, wheeler, flannery, armstrong, meli, sia, dean all start at centre and had ashurst and roby moved there during the game, i would say the centre postion has been a problem this year.

Isn't scott moore back at saints to replace KC when he retires ? Ain't he he played the last 3/4 years at hooker at cas, hudds then back at saints ? Didn't he play hooker for england ? I'd say his postion is hooker now.

Kyle was out for 10 weeks this year! we've had moore(hooker), wilkin(backrow), roby(hooker) all playing in the halfs. We then lost leon to injury for past 3/4 weeks and maybe the year! We have played a few games without both, including a semi final which we was unlucky not to win.

Not many teams would cope with these situations and the coach and players deserve a big pat on the back to still be 2nd in the league.