At the end of the day one had to stand and one had to fall, despite a few iffy decisions Saints weren't good enough and played very negative Rugby league.

A bit harsh to compare Roby to Rooney, Roby still has some mileage, whereas Rooney is finished full stop.

not if youve had it in your hand before as if you didnt youve lost control

the worse thing that can happen is if Wigan or Hull get to the final by the same means by poor ref decisions. its not good for the game.

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Few 50/50's went our way but aside from that we were the better team. You didn't get out of your own half for the first 30odd minutes and struggles with our kick chase. in the second half you were awarded 4 repeat sets in our 10m and came up with nothing. Was that Thaler's fault as well?

As for the refereeing Saints spent 80% offside at the play the ball, flopped on nearly every tackle, lying on, LMS leaving the scrum before the ball had even been fed at one point... Walsh once again showed how below average he is again, if it doesn't go all his own way in the first 20 minutes he goes well and truly missing. Wilkin is a liability, how Turner has managed an NRL contract is beyond me, he isn't good enough for reserve grade over there, your 'entertainers' tag has gone, wheres the old flair that's was the saints way? very poor attacking rugby. Once Roby hangs his boots up I fear for you even more, its not often you can get an 80 minute hooker with his skill.

on the whole a good close, nail biting game. see yous next season. and lets face it, who would you rather win the final? Yorkshire or the pies? I'd cheer saints on over them two every day of the week.

He really really wasn't. Some of the flops and offsides Saints were getting away with were borderline ridiculous.

You didn't get out of your own half for the first 30odd minutes - but yet it was only 2 nill after 25 minutes
In the second half you were awarded 4 repeat sets in our 10m and came up with nothing - you spent 30 minutes in our half didn't you and only had 2 points to show for it. You've kind of gone against your 1st point
Saints spent 80% offside at the play the ball - 80%.... 80% really! Saints made 398 tackles in total, so your saying we was offside for 318 tackles? that equals to 53 sets of 6 btw I very much doubt that
flopped on nearly every tackle - please provide one of your amazing percentages
wheres the old flair that's was the saints way - Saints made 4 clean breaks to Warringtons 1

well he was. High tackle wasnt high ref and TJ said it wasnt video ref said it was = penalty, Wire were flopping just as much, missed knock ons. Was embarassing. As a neutral last night I was embarassed by the ref. The offsides were terrible for both teams.

thought both defences were very tight last night...nothing given by either team....good hard game with the better team winning.

your correct

TACKLES Wires 339 - Saints 398

Wilkin made 59 tackles, I think that'll tell you an awful lot.

It must feel awful. I know I get it. We've lost plenty of big games too.

As a neutral, this was my view:
1. Gidley was short when he first hit the ground with the ball and at no point did he ground it on the line or over it.
2. Lineham dropped it.
3. Peyroux grounded it.

The TJ was at at fault for number 2 as he had the best view. Joe Cobb was clearly at fault for 1 and 3. How he didn't notice number 1 is beyond me, and for number 3 not to be a try, Peyroux would have had to have mastered the art of floating just above the ground with at least two grown men lying on his back.