We rely on pens. If we don't get pens we make no meters.

Catalan pack will destroy ours without a doubt.

Here's a question

If I offered you 5th spot and a dam good thrashing in France, as big or more as Wigan got at Wakefield....would you take it?

Ive just watched the game.

When owens made the break near the end, i laughed and said out loud, no chance.
i dislike this guy so much i was willing saints not to get a try.
Thought i heard some boooos when he got the ball a couple of times

Apart from that, another thrilling display from saints. They are almost as entertaining as watching paint dry.

I think fans are being very very harsh on Owens. Yes he's been poor but so have alot of other players in the squad.

He's still young and in his first season with the club.

True but he is the worst of the lot of them.

He is 22 and has played 69 SL games, so he should not be green. He scored a lot for Widnes but has never looked like doing it for us - no doubt hampered by the general malaise of the team.
Still, I just can't work out what he brings to the team. Also, he seems undroppable no matter how dire he performs.

I think I would have preferred Paddy Flynn.

He has played more SL games than what KC has coached, I get the impression he's very enthusiastic and keen to learn on the training field but come match day he's below average most of the time. This past month it looks as though he has bulked up for some reason, what annoys me most is he switches off when defending and gives up too easy, when the opposition make a scoring break he won.t chase the try scorer to send him out wide he just stops gives up and the try is scored with an easier conversion position.

I think that's simply because he knows he isn't fast enough to catch up with any break. Like our whole backline, he lacks any real speed. We have a threequarters made up entirely of small, not very fast, men.