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Quote: Top Saint "So Tomkins at fullback Vs Lomax. Possible given johnny's injury. Tomkins wont be the same player after his injury.
Both wingers - sorry not having that.
Brainfart Gelling. - now I know you're having a laugh. My centres are Percy and Peyroux. Turner is still better than either of theirs.
Sarginson not as good as any above.
Williams - OK
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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Your RL ignorance knows no bounds.
Of the last 29 Wigan games O'Loughlin has played 26.
Savelio, who can't get a game is better than Farrell who is an International back row forward!!!

And you've missed Bateman who is better than any of Saints back three forwards.'"


As a nuetral in this (and because I cant sleep) ill give my perspective:

Tompkins is clearly better than Lomax, even though both are better suited to the halves imo
Manfriedi is a hell of a player, looks a young Ryan Hall and could be in the England side a long time, Makinson Charnley is a toss up on form
Percival and Sarginson for the centres
williams over turner (obviously) and Id probably rather have smith because Walsh cant defend
Saint's front row is miles better, with Flower for Amor being the only question
Bateman and Savellio in the second row, Farrell is close and J Tomkins is the most overrated player in the league
SOL over Wilkin, hed probably be one of my favourite players if he didnt have the dirty side to his game (same for Bateman)

Wigan better backs, Saints batter pack, wigan probably just edge it
Both coaches play dire rugby, but Wane does it a lot more effectively

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Sandow is the most inconsistant player I have ever seen, he'll beat teams on his own and then the next week go anonymous, the question is when he inevitably drops form can Gidley pick up the slack, if so then it may just be their year

how did he get on in week one and week two this year then?

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "how did he get on in week one and week two this year then?'"


Week1

Zero tackle busts
Zero try assists
4 missed tackles
5.00m average gain.


Week 2

4 tackle busts
1 try assists
3 missed tackles
7.25m average gain.

I'm not sure but I think he has the worst missed tackle ratio in the whole of super league, 1 in 3 missed according to stats, thought our Luke Walsh would be worse but apparently not, he's not far off though.

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Quote: Judder Man "Week1

Zero tackle busts
Zero try assists
4 missed tackles
5.00m average gain.


Week 2

4 tackle busts
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3 missed tackles
7.25m average gain.

I'm not sure but I think he has the worst missed tackle ratio in the whole of super league, 1 in 3 missed according to stats, thought our Luke Walsh would be worse but apparently not, he's not far off though.'"



Did you actually watch week 1?

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Wigan better backs, Saints batter pack, wigan probably just edge it
Both coaches play dire rugby, but Wane does it a lot more effectively'"


Currently, that's a fair assessment!

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Saints have a better front row by a distance but Wigan's back row is comfortably better then Saints if everyone is fit (or if Williams is fit at the weekend which will allow O'Loughlin to move back to loose forward). I'd therefore put any pack battle as just about even.

As for the backs, on current personnel I'd take ours but both sides are missing big players (well player in our case if Williams plays). As a Wigan fan I'd feel much more nervous playing a Saints side with Turner at centre and Burns/Fages at stand off then I would Turner at 6 so it'll be interesting to see what Cunningham goes for.

Both sides haven't hit top gear yet but I'm still massively looking forward to the game.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Did you actually watch week 1?'"

I was at Leeds & I saw Sandow score our 1st try & then he did great kick which directly led to our game winning try.

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Quote: Top Saint "So Tomkins at fullback Vs Lomax. Possible given johnny's injury. Tomkins wont be the same player after his injury.
Both wingers - sorry not having that.
Brainfart Gelling. - now I know you're having a laugh. My centres are Percy and Peyroux. Turner is still better than either of theirs.
Sarginson not as good as any above.
Williams - OK
Flower.
Manfradi tore us apart today and must be closing in on England spot. You'd take swifty and Tommy "I can't beat a man" Makinson lol

Sargison showed shraron mcdonnell how to play fullback and he's not even a fullback.

You'd take Peyroux and Turner over Gelling who ripped us apart today proves your a muppet.

Your living in a Saints blinkered world mate. This saints team is pour.

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Manfredi on current form walks an England place. He's doing things I've not seen one of our wingers do in a long time and we've had some great ones. He is a freak of nature with his strength, pace and footwork.

I'm clearly biased as a Wigan fan but his form is exciting for both us and England.

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a026.gif a026.gif Sandow may not be the best tackler, he wasn't bought for that but at least he doesn't go and try and get an obstruction like Walsh did today for smiths try. Walsh couldn't lace sandows boots. To be fair he hasn't been very consistent
1st game quality
2nd game good
3rd game good
4th game quality
5th game good
6th game quality
7th game quality

Like you see really inconsistent!!!!

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Quote: NickyKiss "Manfredi on current form walks an England place. He's doing things I've not seen one of our wingers do in a long time and we've had some great ones. He is a freak of nature with his strength, pace and footwork.

I'm clearly biased as a Wigan fan but his form is exciting for both us and England.'"


Swifty isn't bad but will never be good enough to play for England but Tommy can't beat a man to save his life. You can kick to him all day and you'll never need worry about him doing you damage. He's got bags of effort and heart but he's not and never will be top winger.

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