Sounds like an improvement over our most recent signing in the backs, Dom Panic Peyroux and the previous one, Matty Championship 1 Dawson.

It is seriously worrying that we're even considering this kind of nonsense signing.

How do you know we are considering signing him?

I don't technically. It was rumoured in the papers and on here. Do you know something I don't?

Didn't our Chairman once say something like " A world class stadium for a world class team" ?

Some players suit certain clubs and vice versa. For whatever reason, style of play, club culture, geography, the coach etc affects how well a player settles in that system and brings out the best in him. If Jamie Lyon or Paul Newlove were in the Saints team today, would they be as effective? We moan that Percival is starved of quality ball at Saints so if you put him in at Leeds, surely you'd see an even better Percival, been given more ball, space and thus increasing his development.

Danny Brough, Kevin Brown, Jamie Ellis, Brett Ferres, Joel Moon are just examples of players who suit a certain club/style and have come into their own after perhaps not being given a fair crack elsewhere.

We haven't signed this Jack Owens but if we did, who's to say he wouldn't develop massively in a Saints team?

Kevin brown has about 3 good games a season when he's not injured.

If Widnes are like a fat, bald mid 40's bloke who's just got 'lucky' on a Saturday night on Duke Street and took home a good looking girl with self esteem issues, only to get to 'the moment', and look down in desperation at his flaccid member, then Kevin Brown would be the one who thumbs it in.

I really rate him.

What I strange likeness, I could almost picture it ...

On reflection, it was a regrettable analogy.

Signing confirmed this morning. 2 year deal.

I don't think that's a bad signing. He's gonna be a bit of a project I suspect but these things can work out sometimes. I really hope the Gilmore rumours are true - I'd be very happy with that.

Saints have got themselves a little gem here.He's no world beater,nobody is claiming that,but he is a very good RL player with his best years ahead of him.Ignore all the guff about him being championship standard,slow etc, Saints will have had their eye on him and I'd prefer Cunninghams and his assistants opinions to internet forum experts.Widnes' loss.I think he will fit in at Saints like a hand in a glove.His new club wont be playing championship rugby come next August in the middle 8 like his previous club, anyway.

Good luck to jack......he's an average player but he's stung saints for a two year deal.....well played!

Very disappointing news. Hopefully he'll turn into a star and make me look daft, but it's not a promising sign when a Middle 8s team were willing to release him with no fee as he was about 7th choice in his position.

I'd just love Eamon to come out and admit that the club aren't attempting to be successful. If he's in the programme notes at the start of the season preaching that we've got the best squad in Super League like he usually does, I may have to punch him.

I just don't see the point of this signing in terms of positions either. He's played fullback and wing and we don't need cover in either particularly. He's not going to improve the starting 13, so all we're doing is having a slight upgrade on Matty Dawson, who's contract extension then becomes even more puzzling.

Absolute best case is that Lomax is retiring, he's short term cover for fullback until SMD is back and that we're signing a superstar centre or prop. I don't hold much hope of that however.