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Quote: Saddened! "No one has asked you to. And you are assuming that just as much as I'm assuming we're just being tight with offers to save money.'"


I didn't "assume" Savelio's pretext. This issue hasn't just appeared out of the blue. I've known about it since last December (perhaps even earlier).

If Savelio wanted more money and was prepared to go back on his commitment to Australia he's had ample opportunity to set the record straight.

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[Young] my bad.

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Quote: Hawkandro "You'd maybe understand if he is getting no game time whatsoever and it was Leeds or Wigan that wanted him; you know, a club that stands a chance of winning a trophy, but to join Warrington? It must be pure greed, because they sure as sh*t won't win a trophy in his time with them.'"

I'll bite. Warrington don't stand a chance of winning a trophy but have won 4 in the last 5 years.

Already signed Gidley, Lineham and potentially Sandow, I think we do.

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Player joins another club for more money shocker!! Can't believe it...burn him. Wanting a better wage the greedy get.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Player joins another club for more money shocker!! Can't believe it...burn him. Wanting a better wage the greedy get.'"


Normally, I fully agree. However given the difficulties he's had, and the loyalty and patience Saints have shown him, I struggle to believe that most decent human beings would be willing to repay that, at least to some extent. The hardball nature of his agents negotiating, along with the rumours that seemingly follow him, makes it a very bitter pill to swallow, if indeed there are anything in these rumours.

I suspect we'll learn a lot more on Sunday

Edit: got my days mixed up in my old age

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Normally, I fully agree. However given the difficulties he's had, and the loyalty and patience Saints have shown him, I struggle to believe that most decent human beings would be willing to repay that, at least to some extent. The hardball nature of his agents negotiating, along with the rumours that seemingly follow him, makes it a very bitter pill to swallow, if indeed there are anything in these rumours.

I suspect we'll learn a lot more on Sunday

Edit

We don't know if any of that is true! How would the approach of an agent in negotiations with the club get out exactly? Very unprofessional if it has!

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "I'll bite. Warrington don't stand a chance of winning a trophy but have won 4 in the last 5 years.

Already signed Gidley, Lineham and potentially Sandow, I think we do.'"

I was about to question that, but you got the league leaders in 2011. Lineham should be an excellent signing, are you losing Monaghan or is he staying on? Gidley will either be as good as Hodgeson or as disastrous as Bowen, or somewhere in between.

I don't know enough about Sandow to comment.

I still, as a young prop forward, wouldn't be leaving Saints for Wire unless there was a substantial pay increase.

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Rugby league is his job. Forget loyalty crap, he's here to make money. It's easy to watch from your fans seat and say he's not loyal but would you stay in your current Job if another company offered you more money ?

At the end of the day sav has probably 12 years to make what he can and hope he's lucky with injuries. I want to him stay but I know it's their living and not just sport.

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"Second, I find it hard to believe that this board's resident Pandora finds it inconceivable that a player who is willing to string his club along with a fictitious rationale whilst negotiating against them will do so again (with far greater consequences). "

Must admit I see Saddened as more of a Cassandra figure myself; at least Pandora eventually let out Hope after trapping her in the box, and I've never seen much evidence that hope plays much part in Saddened's on-line persona.

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Quote: St pete "Rugby league is his job. Forget loyalty crap, he's here to make money. It's easy to watch from your fans seat and say he's not loyal but would you stay in your current Job if another company offered you more money ?

At the end of the day sav has probably 12 years to make what he can and hope he's lucky with injuries. I want to him stay but I know it's their living and not just sport.'"


If my company had developed me over several years, supported me through a debilitating illness and then promoted me, I would feel like I at least owed that company a bit of loyalty yes.

I'm not saying he owes us loyalty forever, and if he wants to go and follow his dream of the NRL one day, he goes with our blessing when he's firmly established, but Warrington for a bit more money?!

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Quote: Blobbynator "If my company had developed me over several years, supported me through a debilitating illness and then promoted me, I would feel like I at least owed that company a bit of loyalty yes.

I'm not saying he owes us loyalty forever, and if he wants to go and follow his dream of the NRL one day, he goes with our blessing when he's firmly established, but Warrington for a bit more money?!'"


BUT, if you were "head hunted" by another company and offered a far better salary, with fringe benefits (car, pension etc) the surely you would consider it. As I've said previously Saints will have a max value for Savelio. If another club want to pay more than that then Saints have a big decision to make. Personally I would stick to my guns and let him go, because it will cause further problems down the line when the next young stars come knocking at the chairmans door asking for salaries that the club don't think are justified.

Savelio is a very good prospect, but that's all he is at the moment. What happens if he doesn't fulfill that potential and you finish up paying him way above market rate for four or five years?

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Great signing for Wire though if rumours are true.

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Quote: Blobbynator "If my company had developed me over several years, supported me through a debilitating illness and then promoted me, I would feel like I at least owed that company a bit of loyalty yes.

I'm not saying he owes us loyalty forever, and if he wants to go and follow his dream of the NRL one day, he goes with our blessing when he's firmly established, but Warrington for a bit more money?!'"



And what if this type of money never came again ? He's got to look after himself, it's s short career and injury can end a career at anytime. They don't earn massive amounts so need to take what they can.

When I was 20 I had the the choice of fulltime rugby with a big club for a decent amount or carry on in the line of work I was doing and I retired from rugby (play amatuer tho) as I can earn much more money working. Id been with that club since 15.

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If he does go (which it seems he will be doing) then we'll move on.
Warrington APPEAR to be building a nice side for next year so I guess thats one reason he may be moving.
If the money is right and he is getting what he wants then I can't blame him, I'd do exactly the same in that position.
It's a damn shame to see him go mind.

Saints have lost better players and carried on. As you were Sintellins!

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Savelio has indeed signed Sean Magennis ex saints player told me today. He was told by Gary Wheeler. All his local Warrington friends are telling everybody so its no big secret it will have to be announced soon.

Hope he never plays for us again. Give Olly Davies a run instead.

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