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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I might be wrong but I think a good few of your team went into the game carrying injury. Monaghans injury was caused by his own tackling technique and was noway Richards fault.

You seem to be confusing outcome with intent. Westwood certainly intended to cause injury all of the other tackles including Hansens are up for debate.

Are you saying that the ref was biased in Wigan's favour?'"



Biased? No

The trouble with Wigan is they are like tax lawyers, what they do is legal but unethical.

You look at things you can do that push the limits of the laws, laws have been changed and updated on the back of some of your 'unsavoury' play, including the Hanson 3rd man in on a player that's effectively tackled.
When the Saints Wigan game was obviously looking like a game of tight margins you deliberately targeted the only consistent kicker they had GOB and that almost worked when Saints missed every penalty presented to them.

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Quote: Wire Yed "I hope they stick 60 on you tbh, I can live with it.'"

Well that's the difference between us. Are you aware of how you are parading your bitterness and stupidity all over the Saints board. Probably better to just stick with stupidity like me!!!!

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Well that's the difference between us. Are you aware of how you are parading your bitterness and stupidity all over the Saints board. Probably better to just stick with stupidity like me!!!!'"


To be fair, I imagine he is in the majority when stating he hopes Wigan get beat. You'll do well to find many neutrals who will be shouting for Wigan.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "To be fair, I imagine he is in the majority when stating he hopes Wigan get beat. You'll do well to find many neutrals who will be shouting for Wigan.'"


Probably in a diminishingly small minority, but I hope Wigan stuff them.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Probably in a diminishingly small minority, but I hope Wigan stuff them.'"


I'll never ever understand this if I'm honest. A Saints fan wanting Wigan to be World Champions makes no sense whatsoever.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Probably in a diminishingly small minority, but I hope Wigan stuff them.'"

why?

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Nope can't shout for Wigan on this one.

I think the only time I want Wigan to win is when it will benefit us ie taking out a rival.

AS we are not in this competition then whilst not supporting the aussies, I'm not wanting Wigan to win.

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Quote: Southport Saint "why?'"


I think it's better for the game over here big picture, in terms of oiling the wheels of a potential money spinning expanded WCC that has been floated a number of times recently. It's also good for the credibility of SL as a competition which carries a number of positives that aren't immediately obvious, including what we as spectators think about the standard of RL we're paying to watch (and that sponsors are paying to support).

I'm also probably influenced by having flown over to Oz a couple of times to support GB/England and putting up with the Sydney natives . . . .

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Quote: FearTheVee "I think it's better for the game over here big picture, in terms of oiling the wheels of a potential money spinning expanded WCC that has been floated a number of times recently. It's also good for the credibility of SL as a competition which carries a number of positives that aren't immediately obvious, including what we as spectators think about the standard of RL we're paying to watch (and that sponsors are paying to support).

I'm also probably influenced by having flown over to Oz a couple of times to support GB/England and putting up with the Sydney natives . . . .'"


Nothing that you have described is worth having Wigan as World Champions.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Nothing that you have described is worth having Wigan as World Champions.'"


Meh, it's a similar argument to the "Saints GF vs England WC win" that gets trotted out every now and again. Some look towards potential long term benefits, some look towards local bragging rights.

Neither is "wrong" and it's never going to be unanimous.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Well that's the difference between us. Are you aware of how you are parading your bitterness and stupidity all over the Saints board. Probably better to just stick with stupidity like me!!!!'"



I'm not bitter because it's you not us, the season before Leeds beat us in the final but I wanted them to win the WCC, Wigan fans have no class in victory, not one Wigan fan I know, NOT ONE, I include all my wigan supporting friends was gracious in victory, my mobile phone sounded like a car alarm and after the fact not one will accept that the reason we crumbled in the 2nd half was players playing injured and a lack of interchange options, no the reason they won is because we are bottlers and old and Wigan were the greatest side to ever grace rugby and we can't live you? Forgetting the fact we turn you over almost as regularly as Saints turn us over.

I firmly believe without the injuries we'd have won that game but hey it's consigned to history now just like the Russell Smith incident many moons ago.

No grace, no class, superiority complex, proven cheats, almost destroyers of our game.

There are many reasons I don't like Wigan, you winning the GF was only 0.00000000000001 of the reason I hate seeing Wigan win.

Good luck Sydney this year, if you play in it next season and your opponents are not Wigan then I won't support you.
If Cronulla do it though I'm on the Sharks as they're my 2nd club.

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Quote: Wire Yed "I'm not bitter because it's you not us, the season before Leeds beat us in the final but I wanted them to win the WCC, Wigan fans have no class in victory, not one Wigan fan I know, NOT ONE, I include all my wigan supporting friends was gracious in victory, my mobile phone sounded like a car alarm and after the fact not one will accept that the reason we crumbled in the 2nd half was players playing injured and a lack of interchange options, no the reason they won is because we are bottlers and old and Wigan were the greatest side to ever grace rugby and we can't live you? Forgetting the fact we turn you over almost as regularly as Saints turn us over.

I firmly believe without the injuries we'd have won that game but hey it's consigned to history now just like the Russell Smith incident many moons ago.

No grace, no class, superiority complex, proven cheats, almost destroyers of our game.

There are many reasons I don't like Wigan, you winning the GF was only 0.00000000000001 of the reason I hate seeing Wigan win.

Good luck Sydney this year, if you play in it next season and your opponents are not Wigan then I won't support you.
If Cronulla do it though I'm on the Sharks as they're my 2nd club.'"

And do you think this post demonstrates class? I'm surprised you have ANY mates if that is how to talk about them. I'm seriously concerned for your mental well-being mate. You seem to be carrying a lot of anger.

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Is this the amateur psychology turn around, just say 'bless' or 'owned' it's easier, the great thing with true mates I suppose is you can be honest.

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Can't understand why Saints fans wouldn't want Wigan to beat an Aussie side. That's some serious bitterness....

I cheer Saints players when they play for England (though perhaps not quite as loudly as The Wigan players in the side) and I cheered Saints when you played Sale. Of course you lost, which while normal from a Wigan fan's perspective (you lost more matches against Wigan at KR than you won against us at home I believe) was disappointing, particularly as I was sitting next to some Sale fans...

Back on topic I think we can all now agree that there was nothing in the supposed incident and we can all wish Walsh a speedy recovery.

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Quote: Deano G "
Back on topic I think we can all now agree that there was nothing in the supposed incident and we can all wish Walsh a speedy recovery.'"


Fair.

Can we also agree that the rfl think some clubs are sailing too close to the line given this has just come out? www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/9152065/? - seems timely given the discussion.

In particular not allowing unintentional as an excuse anymore ...
Quote: Deano G "
Back on topic I think we can all now agree that there was nothing in the supposed incident and we can all wish Walsh a speedy recovery.'"


Fair.

Can we also agree that the rfl think some clubs are sailing too close to the line given this has just come out? www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/9152065/? - seems timely given the discussion.

In particular not allowing unintentional as an excuse anymore ...


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