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| Given that Salford are going to have to pay a premium to tempt players away from their current clubs, the impact on the Cap of signing these players is going to be bigger.
Anyone else think Dr Carcrash plans a bit of a legal barney with the RFL/SL at some point in the near future...?
Then again, it remains to be seen if the RFL/SL can grow a pair when faced with a rich/powerful individual making a string of marquee signings that has everyone thinking "how the frig can they stay under the Cap with all those?"
<<< cough >>> Wire <<< cough >>>
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| Quote: Th'ump "Given that Salford are going to have to pay a premium to tempt players away from their current clubs, the impact on the Cap of signing these players is going to be bigger.
Anyone else think Dr Carcrash plans a bit of a legal barney with the RFL/SL at some point in the near future...?
Then again, it remains to be seen if the RFL/SL can grow a pair when faced with a rich/powerful individual making a string of marquee signings that has everyone thinking "how the frig can they stay under the Cap with all those?"
<<< cough >>> Wire <<< cough >>>'"
I'm pretty sure the RFL would just roll over. They do whenever Wigan come to them with a proposal so they can fit another player in or given Sam Tomkins another few hundred thousand pounds (When he's off at the soonest possible oppportunity).
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| Quote: Th'ump "Given that Salford are going to have to pay a premium to tempt players away from their current clubs, the impact on the Cap of signing these players is going to be bigger.
Anyone else think Dr Carcrash plans a bit of a legal barney with the RFL/SL at some point in the near future...?
Then again, it remains to be seen if the RFL/SL can grow a pair when faced with a rich/powerful individual making a string of marquee signings that has everyone thinking "how the frig can they stay under the Cap with all those?"
<<< cough >>> Wire <<< cough >>>'"
Salford have been miles under the cap this year so we have plenty to spend. Add to the fact that we will probably off load 10 players at the end of the season, 2 of those being our top earners. So why the hell can’t Salford sign a marque signing and surround him by 5-6 good players? Don’t think the RFL need balls to stand up to people like the Dr, I think people need to get there heads out of there ar$es and realise our game is struggling and needs people like him around to a) invest money and b) create some headlines and press coverage that the game needs. Just because he shakes the apple cart a bit and some of the so called bigger clubs and their fans get their noses out of joint, who cares! The more stronger teams in SL the better and the better the competition the more people will want to watch
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| Just because Dr Kockrash has money to burn, Doesn't mean we will give in easily.
Rangi has not signed for Salford ! - Should things change, We will make it work for us. But he hasn't asked to go anywhere yet.
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| Quote: Dettoriman "Just because Dr Kockrash has money to burn, Doesn't mean we will give in easily.
Rangi has not signed for Salford ! - Should things change, We will make it work for us. But he hasn't asked to go anywhere yet.'"
People telling me he's already agreed terms with Salford just between Cas and Salford for transfer fee now. Hope it's true, he'll be one of the biggest signings in Salford's recent history.
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "People telling me he's already agreed terms with Salford just between Cas and Salford for transfer fee now. Hope it's true, he'll be one of the biggest signings in Salford's recent history.'"
I don't think terms are going to be an issue, But he is happy at Cas - He told Daryl Powell he had advised his agent he wanted to stay at Cas, And nothing appears to have changed.
Steve Gill told our fans last week we hadn't received an offer for him (You cannot speak to him without our permission) - So unless a lot has changed, You can't have agreed terms - remember, Koucash was telling your fans when he came in he had already signed Chase, When he hadn't.
The fee would range between 250 and 400k - but we will not accept it unless he wants to go, And he has shown zero signs, In fact. Was very blunt after Wigan away to fans the other day in the pub, Saying he would never go to Salford.
I guess time will tell.
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| Quote: Dettoriman "I don't think terms are going to be an issue, But he is happy at Cas - He told Daryl Powell he had advised his agent he wanted to stay at Cas, And nothing appears to have changed.
Steve Gill told our fans last week we hadn't received an offer for him (You cannot speak to him without our permission) - So unless a lot has changed, You can't have agreed terms - remember, Koucash was telling your fans when he came in he had already signed Chase, When he hadn't.
The fee would range between 250 and 400k - but we will not accept it unless he wants to go, And he has shown zero signs, In fact. Was very blunt after Wigan away to fans the other day in the pub, Saying he would never go to Salford.
I guess time will tell.'"
I'm not being funny pal but your CEO is hardly going to say you want rid of your best player before the season is over is he?
Marwan has told fans he will announce signings on August the 9th due to certain signings not wanting to rock the boat with their current clubs. Now it does sound quite a coincidence that doesn't it?
I remember John wilkinson saying to us all that Stefan Ratchford isn't for sale as he wants him to be central to what the club wanted to do when moving into the new stadium, he even said stef was happy, weeks later he announced stef was being sold to Warrington. Don't believe everything people say especially when the company they work for is struggling fanancially.
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| Quote: Dettoriman "Just because Dr Kockrash has money to burn, Doesn't mean we will give in easily.
Rangi has not signed for Salford ! - Should things change, We will make it work for us. But he hasn't asked to go anywhere yet.'"
Its a done deal
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| Quote: Stanley30 "Salford have been miles under the cap this year so we have plenty to spend. Add to the fact that we will probably off load 10 players at the end of the season, 2 of those being our top earners. So why the hell can’t Salford sign a marque signing and surround him by 5-6 good players? Don’t think the RFL need balls to stand up to people like the Dr, I think people need to get there heads out of there ar$es and realise our game is struggling and needs people like him around to a) invest money and b) create some headlines and press coverage that the game needs. Just because he shakes the apple cart a bit and some of the so called bigger clubs and their fans get their noses out of joint, who cares! The more stronger teams in SL the better and the better the competition the more people will want to watch'"
I wonder how keen you would have been for someone to come in a bulldoze the cap before Dr Kashcow came along to save you?
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I wonder how keen you would have been for someone to come in a bulldoze the cap before Dr Kashcow came along to save you?'"
Well seen as Wigan and Warrington have "apparently" done it before its just a different teams turn now. How many people do you hear saying they wish Man City never did what they did in 2012? Nobody because its a change and makes the game more interesting?
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "Well seen as Wigan and Warrington have "apparently" done it before its just a different teams turn now. How many people do you hear saying they wish Man City never did what thteey did in 2012? Nobody because its a change and makes the game more interesting?'"
So the answers no then. I wonder how interesting you would have found it if the bigger clubs in the league forced the rfl to ditch the cap then just sailed away into the financial distance before the good Dr came along? Clubs like wigoon buying up players just to keep them away from other teams like they used too.
Things change with money but as a whole the game is skint, allow a handfull of teams to pull away completely and it will be as dull and predictable as the premier league in football (sky big it up but it's just the same crap year on year) or La Liga where only 2 teams have any chance
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| Quote: No1 Saint "So the answers no then. I wonder how interesting you would have found it if the bigger clubs in the league forced the rfl to ditch the cap then just sailed away into the financial distance before the good Dr came along? Clubs like wigoon buying up players just to keep them away from other teams like they used too.
Things change with money but as a whole the game is skint, allow a handfull of teams to pull away completely and it will be as dull and predictable as the premier league in football (sky big it up but it's just the same crap year on year) or La Liga where only 2 teams have any chance'"
The super league is dull and predictable now!! And tbh if the top teams did force the RFL to get rid of the salary cap and did spend away the league would be nothing different to what it's like now. The same teams at the top and same at the bottom, JUST LIKE THE PREMIER LEAGUE USED TO BE LIKE BEFORE CHELSEA AND MAN CITY! with Dr Koukash there's a chance if a different team challenging which believe it of not will make the game more interesting and not another forgone conclusion.
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| Quote: RED LEAGUE "Well seen as Wigan and Warrington have "apparently" done it before its just a different teams turn now. How many people do you hear saying they wish Man City never did what they did in 2012? Nobody because its a change and makes the game more interesting?'"
And us. Don't forget us.
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| I'm happy Koukash is plowing money into Salford, Rugby League needs a strong Manchester based team to progress. I would love to see Salford win the league, it would be great for our comp.
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| You would have to be an idiot not to be supportive of Dr Koukash's investment in not only Salford, but also Super League. Dont forget this was a club that 7 months ago were on the verge of extinction, that's 140 years of history gone. Instead of being ridiculed Koukash should be thanked for investing in rugby league, whilst it makes Salford a stronger team it also makes Super League a stronger and much more competitive product.
Koukash investment in Salford will filter down through other clubs, look at the Elliot Whitehead saga. He offered Bradford in excess of £100,000.00 for his transfer, how can that not be a good thing for clubs, particularly those with recent financial problems like Bradford. Investment like this enables these clubs to strengthen and/or invest themselves into youth, marketing, stadium improvements, community work etc. It will be the same if/when Rangi Chase signs as a transfer fee will be applicable to Castleford.
Not only that, when was the last time you saw a team that was sat at the bottom of the league for the majority of the season getting so many column inches in the newspapers and press. Whether you agree with what he says or not, he puts himself, Salford City Reds and rugby league in the limelight continually.
He also mixes in very wealthy circles as we saw at Royal Ascot a couple of weeks ago, with Koukash continually sounding off to everyone and anyone who will listen about how fantastic Super League is, we are bound to attract even more wealthy backers into the game.
It's early to say, and time will only tell, but he is potentially one of the best things to happen in the Super League era.
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