Yep,he should be returned to Hull a.s.a.p.

Some of us have been saying all this for past three years, the grand final appearances paper over the cracks.

The team is stale, it needs to be freshed up most years to keep the team competitive. The recruitment has been shocking for a long time.

When you lose players of the calibre of long, scully, Cunningham, gidley and Jammer, you need to bring in quality to replace them. We will never get players that good but we needed the best possible.

Example - we've replaced Jammer with a 32 year old backrow to play prop. We replaced Eastmond with a 29 year old fullback to play at 6. Shocking recruitment!!!!!

Bad I agree, our brand new stadium looks rubbish!

On a positive note………..Well, no one died!

No one can blame the half backs. What the hell are they meant to do when they receive the ball on the last tackle and we are still behind our 20m line?

If I was Brown I would be dropping as many of the old timers/established players for next week and letting the kids have a go. We may get destroyed but at least they will show some heart and have a go. Unlike those jellyfish that took to the field last night.

Last week this squad was arguably the best on the league, and although we were awful last night, they deserve an opportunity to put it right.

I'd go as far as saying, the worst I've ever seen us play!

Normally I would agree but after having the first full off-/pre-season in donkey's years with hardly any injuries whatsoever under a new coach who was with them from the start of the off season and having top notch training facilities available to them, I don't agree.

However, I fully expect the same crew to turn out next week, except Brown may drop some of the young players upon the advice of Cunningham (since, according to a pre-season statement, he appears to seek the advice of Cunningham).

Coaches taking advice from assistants, not according to the rumour I heard.

I think they deserve an opportunity to put it right, and I expect they will to be honest.

They will definitely all play, or all the senior players will play anyway. Whether they will put it right is another matter. But I think that can only really be done at home.

As an aside, in his debut for Bradford Jamie Foster has just scored, and has been busy converting all their tries. He is playing at fullback.

I meant that I expect they will all have the opportunity to put it right, should have made it clearer.

Good on him. I mentioned a couple of times that I thought he needed to move away from the wing to make the most of his abilities. He also made 155 metres forward, which implies he did a few things right.

Glad to know our lads can pull things round in pastures new.

What makes you think the kids will respond better to Brown than the professionals? Surely the issue of enthusiasm etc gets laid squarely at the door of the coach?

He had a mare, it was a tough night for saints everything went wrong no one played well, but manu will be a terrific signing he is a class act.

Are you saying the kids are not professionals? It's quite possible they are more professional than the senior players.


I don't understand this view. Every player should be enthusiastic at the outset of the new season. I can appreciate that as the season wears on and maybe the campaign isn't going as well as was hoped (or even if it is) then some motivation will be required. But not at the start. They should all have been chomping at the bit and if they weren't then that problem lies entirely with the players, not the coach.