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My head nearly exploded when he went to throw it forward in our in-goal...

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Quote: SaintsFan "He is one of the best barge overs in the game; Makinson's finishing outshines his by 100%.

Meli is a liability in the pressure games. Even in 2006 when we won the GF, Meli conceded a try. He always does. He can be banked on to fluff up at important moments and yet he is consistently played in the pressure games and everyone else has to clear up his messes. For heaven's sake last night it was Josh Jones who was clearing up after him; a young guy in his debut season and initial first grade play off game! Ridiculous.

But he has the love of McManus and so he will be with us should we make the GF. My heart has already sunk.'"


He's a good finisher but if you think all he can do is barge over you have little/no rugby knowledge. He is one of the most dangerous wingers in the league with ball in hand. I agree Makinson is probably a better finisher in some situations but I can't see why that is relevant?

Meli is a liability in pressure games? Are you sure? What exactly did he do wrong last night and last week against Wigan? If you class him as a liability cause he drops a few high balls we should list all other wingers along side him surely?

I think a big part of your problem with him is that he is not a born and bred die hard St Helens lad going off some of your other posts.

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Quote: Carlos Alberto "My head nearly exploded when he went to throw it forward in our in-goal...'"


Might be the single greatest thing I've ever seen on a rugby pitch. I have no idea what the intention was, but it was hilarious all the same. It wouldn't have been if he'd passed it though.

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Quote: TheVee "I think a big part of your problem with him is that he is not a born and bred die hard St Helens lad going off some of your other posts.'"


Part of my problem with him is the parts he plays in costing us the GF year in, year out.

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Quote: TheVee "I think a big part of your problem with him is that he is not a born and bred die hard St Helens lad going off some of your other posts.'"

Makinson was born in Wigan, his family are Wigan fans and so was Makinson (probably still is). I'm supportive of Makinson. So you are being silly.

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Quote: Carlos Alberto "My head nearly exploded when he went to throw it forward in our in-goal...'"



I'd like to think it was a cunning ploy but with Meli I'm just not sure ... icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Smurf "I have no idea what the intention was, but it was hilarious all the same.'"

Given the number of times we have all seen Meli pass to some poor other person to take a clattering near our own line, I imagine his intention was to pass it but he checked himself in time because he saw he was surrounded by defenders. He was surrounded by defenders because he took his usual eternity to pick up the ball.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Makinson was born in Wigan, his family are Wigan fans and so was Makinson (probably still is). I'm supportive of Makinson. So you are being silly.'"



He's got a shirt on the wall at Wigan st Jude's club house so I'd guess he's played for them.

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Quote: Ninja saint "He's got a shirt on the wall at Wigan st Jude's club house so I'd guess he's played for them.'"


Hindley too I think

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Quote: SaintsFan "Given the number of times we have all seen Meli pass to some poor other person to take a clattering near our own line, I imagine his intention was to pass it but he checked himself in time because he saw he was surrounded by defenders. He was surrounded by defenders because he took his usual eternity to pick up the ball.'"


If you watch the dummy if he did actually pass it would have been more forward that an Andy Farrell special

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Quote: SaintsFan "Makinson was born in Wigan, his family are Wigan fans and so was Makinson (probably still is). I'm supportive of Makinson. So you are being silly.'"


I'll get straight to the point then. I don't think you will ever be overly supportive of players who count on the quota or don't come through our youth system for e.g Gaskell can make as many mistakes as he wants and his poor pass selection/no passing at all arguably cost us last years Grand Final. Dixon's defence is one of the most inconsistant I have ever seen and Makinson isn't exempt from costly mistakes but none of them get the same criticism as Meli or Hohaia do.

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Quote: TheVee "I'll get straight to the point then. I don't think you will ever be overly supportive of players who count on the quota or don't come through our youth system for e.g Gaskell can make as many mistakes as he wants and his poor pass selection/no passing at all arguably cost us last years Grand Final. Dixon's defence is one of the most inconsistant I have ever seen and Makinson isn't exempt from costly mistakes but none of them get the same criticism as Meli or Hohaia do.'"


I should wash my mouth out here defending SF but the players you mentioned are young lads learning there trade and I would imagine are on a small (ish) salary. Hohaia who is never stand off in a million years and Meli are experienced seasoned pro's who are probably on the upper end of the salary scale so they are in the firing line. Meli especially has come up with more howlers in big games than any other player I recall at least in the SL era

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Quote: No1 Saint "Re read what you typed and it's not hard to see why so many people , me included think he's a liability ... "cost us big in a few grand finals" . In the big games against the best teams he is just exposed. It gives me no pleasure to say this either. 10.326171875:10
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