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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Yes you are, namely 20 years' worth of tactical evolution...'"
If you cast your mind back just a few years or so we had two of the fastest wingers in the game scoring tries for fun.
I'm sorry but I dont buy your "tactical evolution". Incidentally 20yrs is nothing when considering my experience in the game of Rugby League. I value your opinion, you are entitled to it, but I could never accept it.
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| Quote: wirefox "If you cast your mind back just a few years or so we had two of the fastest wingers in the game scoring tries for fun.
I'm sorry but I dont buy your "tactical evolution". Incidentally 20yrs is nothing when considering my experience in the game of Rugby League. I value your opinion, you are entitled to it, but I could never accept it.'"
I like fast wingers too but alot of coaches go for size rather than pace. Wigan went for a freak like Inga who was fast and big but the first team I remember sacrificing pace in the name of tactics was the Dulls, I remember them having a bloke called Scales on the wing
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Gardner has far more over foster than just experience - better defence, immeasurably better kick returns, a genuine threat from kicks to the corner, more effective in exit sets .....'"
After 10 years more in the game, I'd expect him to be better in defence.
I think you're also being generous in regard to his kick returns, better maybe, immeasurably less so. Maybe 2 yards per return?
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I like fast wingers too but alot of coaches go for size rather than pace. Wigan went for a freak like Inga who was fast and big but the first team I remember sacrificing pace in the name of tactics was the Dulls, I remember them having a bloke called Scales on the wing'"
I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington.'"
I did. Some player
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington.'"
before my time
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| Well he was a Wigan fan from birth...
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| Good solid performance tonight from Foster in the council estate derby . Top class kicking display solid in defence and ok going forward.
That haircut is bloody aweful mind
More impressive for me was Manu, can't wait to see him in the redvee !
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Good solid performance tonight from Foster in the council estate derby . Top class kicking display solid in defence and ok going forward. '"
Great try saving tackle, some other efforts in defence, try assist, great pace to force the goal line drop out, all his goals kicked and one of his kick off specials to force a knock on (which led to a try). He looked like the Foster of old but then again he is being coached once more by a coach who believes in him, as opposed to one who believes he is only worth being permanently excluded.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Good solid performance tonight from Foster in the council estate derby . Top class kicking display solid in defence and ok going forward.
That haircut is bloody aweful mind
More impressive for me was Manu, can't wait to see him in the redvee !'"
don't get too carried away with manus' peformance tonight, 1st decent game in weeks, could've had something to do with sky being there!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Great try saving tackle, some other efforts in defence, try assist, great pace to force the goal line drop out, all his goals kicked and one of his kick off specials to force a knock on (which led to a try). He looked like the Foster of old but then again he is being coached once more by a coach who believes in him, as opposed to one who believes he is only worth being permanently excluded.'"
That's a fair summary.
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| Thought he played very well tonight and looked much more like he did last season rather than the beginning of this. When did it become commonly accepted that he wasn't fast? Looked pretty fast to me, especially when chasing down that kick to force a drop out!
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| Quote: Poyser11 "When did it become commonly accepted that he wasn't fast? '"
I don't know but I never accepted it, and have said so on here (receiving the usual derision as a result!). He is very nippy I think and he was really determined to force that goal line dropout.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I don't know but I never accepted it, and have said so on here (receiving the usual derision as a result!). He is very nippy I think and he was really determined to force that goal line dropout.'"
He's got a decent top speed but poor acceleration which makes him appear slower. Whilst he's not as fast as Tommy, he's certainly no slouch.
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| Solid game from him. As others have said, wasn't really tested under/returning kicks so am looking forward to seeing him play more for them.
Here's hoping he can win them the game against Catalans in a few weeks!
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