I hope Wilkin's shorts come with a pocket so that he can store some bog roll to wipe all the young players s for the rest of the season.

Being a team is about supporting your mates. When those mates are untested in battle then it is up to those who are tested to watch their backs otherwise they don't learn and they put the rest of their mates at risk.

I totally agree that being a team is about helping your mates and not wanting to let your mates down.

I think that's what maguire brought to Wigan last year and one of Nathan browns main thing is getting players to play for each other.

I coach a team and I'm massive on working for your mates.

Indeed, and the senior players are aware that they let the inexperienced members of the team down. Listen to Wello on the latest Saints podcast, for example, or read his interview in the St Helens Star.

I won't bother listening to wello on the pod cast after seeing his interview on sky about Royce being sacked.

In his interview he came across all sad that Royce had gone he's a good actor

No, of course you won't. It wouldn't be convenient for your argument.

He guided himself to a seat in the stand not to mention a fat contract with Catalans

According to a couple of the inexperienced lads he (and Jammer) gave a lot of advice.

Your correct, wello dud thank him for making him captain of his home town club and rightly so he should thank him as its a great honour for any local lad to captain his town but I feel you don't know all the ins and outs of the last week and half running up to Royce being sacked.

And of course you do. Not too many posts back it was all about the performance and style of rugby. Now there is something going on behind the scenes that I don't know about but you do? C'mon Pete. Even for you that's a bit obvious!

Well, you know what, so do I. I know someone who knows the players well. So there.


You think KC is immune to the fickleness of fans? You are either very niaive or very stupid.



I don't know anyone who knows the players, I just know them personally

Providing you "buddy" does know what went on then you'll see why I'm not going to listen to the wello podcast.

No way will KC lose any respect with the fans for what he's done for us on the pitch, no way at all!

McManus sacked millward for off the fieid reasons and not for on the fieid reasons. In fact when and who was the last coach to be sacked for poor results?

You reckon? Hold that thought if things go wrong!


Does anyone actually know the real reason for Millward being sacked? Personally my theory is that McManus didn't like him. That would be all that was necessary for McManus to sack someone.

Was Eric Hughes sacked for results? I can't remember.

I think Ian millward thought he'd become bigger than the club and was untouchable with the things he was doing. Players was also starting to get embarrassed by some of the field stuff.

I think it was Eric Hughes that was last coach sacked for results. Hughes has tough job at the time and is nice fella.