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I suppose not, and as I said, he is fantastic. It's hard to explain and it literally is my one and only criticism. But to me, it seems that (from watching NRL every week) that Cam Smith just manages to create that gap and put someone through, like a halfback would. He seems slightly more creative.
I hope I'm not coming across like i'm saying Roby is bad, because for me he's in the top 3 hookers in the world. And definitely one of the 3 best english players, he really is great.
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| Quote: JWarriors "But to me, it seems that (from watching NRL every week) that Cam Smith just manages to create that gap and put someone through, like a halfback would. He seems slightly more creative. '"
You clearly haven't been watching James Roby this season! |
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| Quote: Buck Tarbrush "Cant blame the Ape for bigging up one of his own , but to base the praise on his performance against Leeds is embarrassing , Leeds at the DW couldnt have been less interested if they had tried , it was a woeful performance and we all know it, I would save such comparisons until he has shown up in the really big games that count .
Something Roby has been doing for a while now .'"
So the grand final isn't counted as a big game now? Don't you remember when mickey Mac played kFC off the field and roby? He was the 2nd best hooker that night after tommy  . Maybe that's why you can't win the big one |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You clearly haven't been watching James Roby this season!'"
3 games? Cool 
Cam Smith has been doing it for more than 3 seasons. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So the grand final isn't counted as a big game now? Don't you remember when mickey Mac played kFC off the field and roby? He was the 2nd best hooker that night after tommy . Maybe that's why you can't win the big one
Quote: SaintsFan "Cant blame the Ape for bigging up one of his own , but to base the praise on his performance against Leeds is embarrassing , Leeds at the DW couldnt have been less interested if they had tried , it was a woeful performance and we all know it, I would save such comparisons until he has shown up in the really big games that count .
Something Roby has been doing for a while now .'"
So the grand final isn't counted as a big game now? Don't you remember when mickey Mac played kFC off the field and roby? He was the 2nd best hooker that night after tommy 
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| Quote: JWarriors "3 games? Cool ![]()
What a stupid thing to say.
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| Quote: glasgowsaint "I have heard a lot of saints fans coming up with reasons/excuses as to why we have not won one of the last 5 grand finals but that one is the most laughable yet. Saints did not win the grand final because their hookers were crap. Sorry mate but not having that.
Maybe Saints should phone wigan and offer a swap deal. Roby for Micky Mac. We will even throw in Meli to sweeten the deal ![]()
I think you'll find that you attributed a quote to me that wasn't actually posted by me but by dubairl above.
So I don't know what you're talking about actually.
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Sorry not very good at this quoting thing. I meant to quote dubairl.
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| Quote: dubairl " So the grand final isn't counted as a big game now? Don't you remember when mickey Mac played kFC off the field and roby? He was the 2nd best hooker that night after tommy . Maybe that's why you can't win the big one'"
Except Tommy didn't play hooker in that game. Wigan started with Mickey Mac and used Piggy Riddell as interchange. Your point still stands though they were both better than Cunningham and Roby on the night. |
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| Quote: glasgowsaint "Sorry not very good at this quoting thing. I meant to quote dubairl.'"
No worries. |
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Wow you like keeping this thread going.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "What a stupid thing to say.'"
How so?
You were the one who said 'this season'.
My original point is true though. But there's no point arguing it because I still think Roby is a class hooker. Just not quite as good as Smith. |
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Roby is a quality Hooker but would be 3rd choice for Australia behind Smith and Farah imo. Id love to see him have a shot in the NRL where i suspect he will go whenever his contract ends at saints.
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There is no point in comparing hookers who are at the top of their game as they bring different skills to a team.
Roby is a scooting hooker who is fantastic defensively so suits Saints well, whereas the likes of Monaghan are more creative so he suits Warrington well.
Roby is world class hooker as is Cameron Smith etc..
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| Quote: St pete "Roby for me is the best hooker in the world and also got to be in the top ten players in rugby league.
I'd have a good bet he's got the best stats In The world. Breaks, tackles, meters, assists I'd like to see anyone better.
I think this year he's took the mantle off jammer and has started to infulance the team more than he did last year.'"
We could argue forever about who is the best hooker in the world. Personally I think its Cameron Smith, however how do you judge who are the best players in the world? Surely you can only be the best in your position.
How do you compare Billy Slater to James Roby, Greg Inglis to Jonathan Thurston or Sam Thaiday to Ryan Hall?
He might have the best stats in the World but thats in SL not the NRL where the intensity is so much higher! |
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