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Quote: bewareshadows "Gaskell will never be as good as Pryce? Sorry Pete thats OTT. Gaskell has more skills at 19 than Pryce did at that same age. Pryce was not even a quality standoff when he came to Saints. Took him a good two years. If gaskell is a better half now than Pryce was when he got here. What makes you think Gaskell has gone as far as he can when he's one year into the professional game. '"




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Quote: bewareshadows "Gaskell will never be as good as Pryce? Sorry Pete thats OTT. Gaskell has more skills at 19 than Pryce did at that same age. Pryce was not even a quality standoff when he came to Saints. Took him a good two years. If gaskell is a better half now than Pryce was when he got here. What makes you think Gaskell has gone as far as he can when he's one year into the professional game. Where as Leon could go further from a lower base.

I think even you have said before that Prcye is a runner not a creative talent in the natural half back sence.'"


Stand offs come in different styles and Leon is a runner which fitted with saints as longy was his ball player and the creative one of the two.

Gaskell and lomax at this current time ain't creative and I can't see Gaskell or lomax providing creativity or leadership skills for a team like saints.

I'll stand by my statement, gaskell will never be as good as pryce, will never make a top class stand off and certainly will never play for England.

However, I do think Gaskell will be a ok player but not top class.

It's a little tiresome listening to how good all our young players are, yes they have done a terrific job but IMO only eastmond and possibly lomax will make top players.

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Quote: McClennan "Stick to bowls Pete
Two games don't make a great player but I thought he was fantastic today as he was in the other play off game at DW.

I'd love to admit I'm wrong and I'd have no problem admitting I'm wrong buy it's still to early yet.

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Quote: St pete "Two games don't make a great player but I thought he was fantastic today as he was in the other play off game at DW.

I'd love to admit I'm wrong and I'd have no problem admitting I'm wrong buy it's still to early yet.'"

It's still early to tell, as you say, but he is a year younger than Lomax and Wheeler. I imagine noone will be happier than Pete if he beats Robes and Tomkins to MOS next year

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Put him in against Thurston Mac!

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Quote: Saint Simon "It's still early to tell, as you say, but he is a year younger than Lomax and Wheeler. I imagine noone will be happier than Pete if he beats Robes and Tomkins to MOS next year'"


Id love Gaskell to become the best player in the world. It's strange that someone like McClennan thinks 2 good games makes him bette than Leon pryce, he must have short memory.

It's great seeing Gaskell playing with so much confidence and taking the line on , something pryce hasn't done for long time.

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Quote: St pete "Id love Gaskell to become the best player in the world. It's strange that someone like McClennan thinks 2 good games makes him bette than Leon pryce, he must have short memory.

It's great seeing Gaskell playing with so much confidence and taking the line on , something pryce hasn't done for long time.'"


Pryce at his best is better than Gaskell. However we havent seen Pryce at his best for the last 16 months due to injury.

I personally think Gaskell is potentially the most creative player we have had at the club since Tommy Martyn.
For someone so young he reads the game really well.
He has a lot to learn though. However if he keeps progressing at his current rate, then he will be a really really good player in two years time. By then he will be bigger, stronger, faster, and have far more big game experience, yet be only 22 years old.

Put it this way at 20 years old Sam Tomkins hadnt played a first team game for Wigan and look how he has progressed.

Other clubs must be really envious at the production line of half back talent we have coming through at Saints.

The thing is, if Saints can do it then why cant other clubs? Its not like we are a big city, but we are developing local kids into really good players. It just shows the talent is out there.

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I think it's a tough call for Royce who'll play in the halves next year.

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Gaskell is an [ioutstanding[/i prospect. Easily one of the best I've seen at the club. There is an effortless fluidity about his movement and he glides across the pitch (very reminiscent of a young Darren Lockyer). He has good hands, a genuine rugby brain and a kicking game which is beyond his years. He is nowhere near physically developed and yet he is threatening to break the line regularly whilst sharing a telepathic understanding with Lomax. When he fleshes out he will trash opposing defences.

That said, I'm not absolutely convinced that the stand-off position gives him the freedom his talent demands. If he fills out and gains an extra half a yard as expected I would be tempted to experiment with him at fullback. It's a hunch but I think Gaskell injecting himself into the backline as he chooses could be a lethal proposition.

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Quote: Mugwump "That said, I'm not absolutely convinced that the stand-off position gives him the freedom his talent demands. If he fills out and gains an extra half a yard as expected I would be tempted to experiment with him at fullback. It's a hunch but I think Gaskell injecting himself into the backline as he chooses could be a lethal proposition.'"


No. He's got the ability to control the game as a half back and we would negate that by playing him at full back. Even if he puts half a yard of pace on he'll still be too slow for full back.

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Quote: McClennan "No. He's got the ability to control the game as a half back and we would negate that by playing him at full back. Even if he puts half a yard of pace on he'll still be too slow for full back.'"


He is reputedly the second fastest player in Saints first team squad.

He can play fullback very well and has done so many times in the under 20's, however personally I would play Lomax in that position, as not only is Lomax quick, but he has fantastic agility and strength.

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Quote: McClennan "No. He's got the ability to control the game as a half back and we would negate that by playing him at full back. Even if he puts half a yard of pace on he'll still be [itoo slow for full back[/i.'"


Yet we have Wello there giving another great performance and proving that if your quick in thought you dont need to be a flyer on the pitch.Also Gaskel isnt slow at all.

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Quote: brook40 "Yet we have Wello there giving another great performance and proving that if your quick in thought you dont need to be a flyer on the pitch.Also Gaskel isnt slow at all.'"


We've had this discussion all season long and that is not true.

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