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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes, of the nine players Saints have in the England squads, four were recruited from elsewhere.
God bless you Rogues, you could find two identical snow flakes if it made Saints look bad.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "I personally expect us to promote Gaskell more this season, with him being the starting half next season, alongside Pryce.'"
Gaskell isn't a scrum half though? He looks as though he could possibly play 1 or 6 but I refuse to believe he's played 7 much. He's already too tall and not the right type of player.
Leon is another 99.99% likely to leave at the end of the season along with Jammer and Kyle. We can't go replacing them with more kids. There has to be established talent brought in somewhere.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Gaskell isn't a scrum half though? He looks as though he could possibly play 1 or 6 but I refuse to believe he's played 7 much. He's already too tall and not the right type of player.
Leon is another 99.99% likely to leave at the end of the season along with Jammer and Kyle. We can't go replacing them with more kids. There has to be established talent brought in somewhere.'"
I know you like to play up to your persona, but "too tall" for a scrum-half ? When did I miss that memo ? Too slow, too weak, too incapable of passing, too much biscuit in the bones - all perfectly good criticisms. But too tall ? How on earth can a scum-half be too tall ? He doesn't have to run through the scrum tunnel, you know ?
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "I know you like to play up to your persona, but "too tall" for a scrum-half ? When did I miss that memo ? Too slow, too weak, too incapable of passing, too much biscuit in the bones - all perfectly good criticisms. But too tall ? How on earth can a scum-half be too tall ? He doesn't have to run through the scrum tunnel, you know ?'"
How many 11 foot beanpoles have you seen play scrum half? All the greats I can remember Murphy, Long, Eastmond, Smith, Goulding, Edwards, Burrow. They are all diminutive types.
What position did Gaskell play for the youth teams? I'll bet it wasn't 7.
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| Isn't Cooke a tall half, granted he's not a great (could have been if he'd applied himself better).
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| Quote: Yed "Isn't Cooke a tall half, granted he's not a great (could have been if he'd applied himself better).'"
He made the biggest mistake of his career when he left Hull to go to HKR,bet he regrets it now though.
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| Quote: Yed "Isn't Cooke a tall half, granted he's not a great (could have been if he'd applied himself better).'"
There are tall halves yes, but who has ever heard of a tall scrum half that was any good?
Perhaps I'm being too old school and expecting there to be a noticable difference between the two. But the way I've always seen it is you have one half back that can organise the line, can feed the ball on to runners effectively and who has both a short and long kicking game. Normally called the scrum half. You have another who operates wider out but who can run. Perfect example being Leon at stand off and Sean Long at scrum half.
By the Saints official website's own admission, Gaskell is a stand off whose main strength is his ability to take on defenders.
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| Quote: cjhatesunion "He made the biggest mistake of his career when he left Hull to go to HKR,bet he regrets it now though.'"
his biggest mistake was picking up a pint
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| Quote: Saint Simon "his biggest mistake was picking up a pint'"
Second biggest mistake wad being a pint of wife better
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| Quote: Saddened! "How many 11 foot beanpoles have you seen play scrum half? All the greats I can remember Murphy, Long, Eastmond, Smith, Goulding, Edwards, Burrow. They are all diminutive types.
What position did Gaskell play for the youth teams? I'll bet it wasn't 7.'"
You would bet wrong.
The first time I saw Gaskell play it was at 7 and I commented on here that he looked very good.
He was quite small and slim then, and I think I compared him to a young Sam Tomkins.
However he appears to be one of those kids that has had a late growth spurt, and he certainly shot up.
Since then I have seen him play at 1, 3, 6 and 7. He is a very talented young player no doubt.
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| Quote: St pete "Didn't think he was that old! I agree he's to old.
Greg bird anyone? I know he's a loose or stand off but stand off and scrumhalf don't differ much these days.'"
Well he's not yet. Only turned 31 this week so he was probably 30 last time you checked!
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Leeds or Wire bound then.
Youngest quickest backs in the league at Leeds next season
bjb, hardacker, watkins, smith, hall and the old boys at 27/28 McGuire and burrow!
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Youngest quickest backs in the league at Leeds next season
bjb, hardacker, watkins, smith, hall and the old boys at 27/28 McGuire and burrow!'"
shame your forwards are old crocks though
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| Quote: Saddened! "There are tall halves yes, but who has ever heard of a tall scrum half that was any good?'"
Physiques change to meet changing requirements. If , forty years ago you'd have asked someone like Murphy whether the sizes and shapes of today's players are feasible he'd have probably said no. Back then it was common to field props which weren't as heavy as some of this era's wingers.
In Murphy's day there was far greater emphasis put on clever play around the scrum and ruck which meant being small was an asset. Today those rules no longer exist and there is nothing to prevent a taller, more muscular player prospering at seven.
The reason you don't see bigger players holding down a seven shirt (and doing well) is because they never get an extended run there.
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