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| Putting any dislike I have for Rugby Union aside surely having a Premiership Union side rent our stadium would be great for business. The fact that the advertising on the Stadium alone would generate more income because of the increased TV coverage would be a welcome boost. The pitch may be a slight issue but could be managed.
The only way Saints can compete in the long term is through generating more money and if allowing a RU team to squat does that then it's gotta be good for the club
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| Alright guys,
Sale fan here.
I've been trying to reply to this for about a week but my account has just been activated.
Amongst all the debating I can confirm that it's pretty unlikely that this will happen. Dave Swanton confirmed last week that it's all a load of rubbish. Geographically it would have made no sense but I don't think it would have affected the crowds too much. We'd still be looking at around 7k a week I reckon and a lot more against the big teams. You see, ever since we won the Premiership in 2006 we have attracted fans from all over the show and so it doesn't really matter to them where we play. We'd definitely bring a fair few more fans than any reserve football team would anyway, regardless of the fixture.
A few points though:
I can't be d finding the quotes but somebody said something along the lines of "it seems that they are just trying to share with anybody" - that's not true. It's all just rumours. In the last 10 years there has been rumours of us ground sharing with Manchester City, Bury, Leigh RL, Salford RL and now St Helens RL. The only one of those that I actually know we looked at was Leigh. But that was just Brian Kennedy looking at the facilities and nothing came of it.
Onto your fans - if we did groundshare with a League club then distance aside you are one of the clubs I would rather share with. Your fans don't seem to be as bitter as other teams and from what I can gather there's a section that like Union, Northampton particular I believe? I don't know what that's all about but I'm guessing the "saints" thing.
And as for the "Altrincham stockbroker belt" comment - well that's a load of b*llocks. I can't deny that in recent years, as I have said we have attracted a lot of fans from all over the show. There is a fair few toffs amongst these but I can assure you that the majority at Sale aren't. I don't know how many of you have been to Sale or Stockport but they're hardly middle class havens. You don't get many toffs sitting in an open air stand at a 4th division football ground in minus 5 conditions put it that way. I'm from Wythenshawe, formerly the biggest council estate in Europe so where I come from makes even St Helens look posh! Only joking guys.
Oh, and whilst I am here - cjhatesunion. Is this guy for real? My guess is no, but if he is then he is probably the biggest bell end on the planet. I often browse here because I have a soft spot for the more local RL teams and like to see them do well. All I see is him making an of himself and somebody agrees with him maybe 1 in 100 times. He's either a really lonely man or a kid messing around on his dinner hour. My actual guess would be that the P.E teacher that taught him to play Union in school used to touch him up when he climbed the rope and so now he has such bitterness. I'm not here to open up a debate about codes or class but this guy is a complete and utter kn*b head. I don't think I've ever seen him say anything good about his beloved League? It seems he spends too much time hating Union that he probably doesn't even know what's going on in Super League. Anyway, I expect a really badly written reply along the lines of "go and watch your yawnion you posh get" - to which I will say revert back to the previous paragraph.
Anyway, good luck with the play-offs and I'm hoping to make it to Knowsley Road before it goes, even if it's just to watch St Helens Town. Cheers.
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| Oh, and whilst I am here - cjhatesunion. Is this guy for real? My guess is no, but if he is then he is probably the biggest bell end on the planet. I often browse here because I have a soft spot for the more local RL teams and like to see them do well. All I see is him making an booty of himself and somebody agrees with him maybe 1 in 100 times. He's either a really lonely man or a kid messing around on his dinner hour. My actual guess would be that the P.E teacher that taught him to play Union in school used to touch him up when he climbed the rope and so now he has such bitterness. I'm not here to open up a debate about codes or class but this guy is a complete and utter kn*b head. I don't think I've ever seen him say anything good about his beloved League? It seems he spends too much time hating Union that he probably doesn't even know what's going on in Super League. Anyway, I expect a really badly written reply along the lines of "go and watch your yawnion you posh get" - to which I will say revert back to the previous paragraph.
In reply to shark j I am A married man in my mid 40s with one child and at school I played RL whilst also playing for my local amateur RL side.
In reply to being touched up I was'nt so don't worry about it.
You say beloved League that has just shown your true colours about what you think about RL so tot off back to Stockport County with the rest of your union mates and leave RL to the true fans of rugby,ok.
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| Thats an interesting reply from Shark J.I have friends who watch Sale regularly,they travel from Nantwich so St.helens wouldnt take them that much longer.They echo his thoughts that the move is a non starter and think that Salfords new ground is a more realistic possibility.
I have been to Sale a few times,even to the old ground,and have been made very welcome.I would hope Shark J gets the same welcome if he came to Saints.We are not all like CJ.Sport should unite people,not create hostility.
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| Quote: snowdog "Thats an interesting reply from Shark J.I have friends who watch Sale regularly,they travel from Nantwich so St.helens wouldnt take them that much longer.They echo his thoughts that the move is a non starter and think that Salfords new ground is a more realistic possibility.
I have been to Sale a few times,even to the old ground,and have been made very welcome.I would hope Shark J gets the same welcome if he came to Saints.We are not all like CJ.Sport should unite people,not create hostility.'"
Not sure if you are trying to be ironic with the final statement but in a RU / RL context its a bit laughable given what has gone on for the vast majority of the last century and a bit !!!
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| That's a good, balanced post from Shark J. cjhatesunion is a bit of a clown.
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| Quote: Mr. Phil "That's a good, balanced post from Shark J. cjhatesunion is a bit of a clown.'"
Why am I though,because I have my opinion on something which obviously means a lot to me.
As I have said before on this forum I have my reasons why I hate union and if other people want to have a go at me for this that is their perogative.
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| Quote: cjhatesunion "Why am I though,because I have my opinion on something which obviously means a lot to me.
As I have said before on this forum I have my reasons why I hate union and if other people want to have a go at me for this that is their perogative.'"
Because you hate rugby union as if they're the Nazi's, that's why.
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| Quote: Mr. Phil "Because you hate rugby union as if they're the Nazi's, that's why.'"
So what! Leave him be.
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| Quote: Div "Not sure if you are trying to be ironic with the final statement but in a RU / RL context its a bit laughable given what has gone on for the vast majority of the last century and a bit !!!'"
There have been a lot of conflicts in the last century much bigger and more important than RL/RU.These have been resolved and its about time this petty argument was resolved.You shouldnt hold a grudge for a lifetime.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
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Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Mr. Phil "Because you hate rugby union as if they're the Nazi's, that's why.'"
Good analogy that,you talking about "The forbidden Game"?
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| Quote: Mr. Phil "Because you hate rugby union as if they're the Nazi's, that's why.'"
Ah the Vichy Government , you are correct they are.
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| Quote: snowdog "There have been a lot of conflicts in the last century much bigger and more important than RL/RU.These have been resolved and its about time this petty argument was resolved.You shouldnt hold a grudge for a lifetime.'"
Can't argue with that but the rugby conflicts have affected me personally where as the others have not.
It's no coincidence that it's not just me who have issues with union though is it.
I understand that people like both games or one or the other but it's all about different opinions and I obviously have mine.
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| Quote: Mr. Phil "Because you hate rugby union as if they're the Nazi's, that's why.'"
One word,Vichy.
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| Quote: cjhatesunion "One word,Vichy.'"
Wonderful. And at the same time, German's were bombing London, and we were flattening Dresden. Men and boys were dying in fields in Europe for both sides, people were being locked in camps and starved and diseased to death.
Britain now trades with Germany, and Jews freely live within Germany.
If these differences can be over come, then your pathetic vendetta against Rugby Union looks like nothing more than some sort of little man complex.
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