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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Does not look too far out to me at all!



I have found the vanishing point using the 10m and Try lines and then drawn a vertical line, which of course indicates the location of the camera relative to the pitch, so roughly between the 3m and 4m line for me. The other line is as best as I can do on the front of Smith's foot to the vanishing point.

So the rail camera is around 5m+ in front of the play and looking back at an angle at the point Bentham used as his reference for the decision!

Looks really tight to me, and difficult to see the ball because of Pryce!'"


Excellent work

and the ball was hidden behind Pryce`s right leg (nearest the try line) as was seen on the Sky camera from the reverse angle.

so it is a very fine call indeed and with benefit to the attacking side was the right decision. Some you win some you lose. Just ask Wigan in the Semi-Final icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "Excellent work

and the ball was hidden behind Pryce`s right leg (nearest the try line) as was seen on the Sky camera from the reverse angle.

so it is a very fine call indeed and with benefit to the attacking side was the right decision. Some you win some you lose. Just ask Wigan in the Semi-Final
It's irrelevant but Stevo has confirmed that the Sky Sports technicians have confirmed Smith was OFFSIDE. I'll go with that rather than some dodgy lines drawn on with ms paint.

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Quote: Saddened! "It's irrelevant but Stevo has confirmed that the Sky Sports technicians have confirmed Smith was OFFSIDE. I'll go with that rather than some dodgy lines drawn on with ms paint.'"


Sky technicians? you mean the floating 6 foot wide spinning rubber rings?

It's funny how Stevo gets nothing but stick for his opinion untill it suits somebody.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "Sky technicians? you mean the floating 6 foot wide spinning rubber rings?

It's funny how Stevo gets nothing but stick for his opinion untill it suits somebody.'"


No, not part of the presentation. They have scientifically proven that Smith was techncially offside.

But we'll not make an issue of it, whats done is done.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Saddened! "It's irrelevant but Stevo has confirmed that the Sky Sports technicians have confirmed Smith was OFFSIDE. I'll go with that rather than some dodgy lines drawn on with ms paint.'"


AutoCad actually and I can assure they are straight and the vertical line is true vertical and starts at the vanishing point of the two lines drawn over the 10m and try line. The line I drew, as best and as honestly as I thought, on Smith's foot also meets the exact same vanishing point.

I did take that original photo from someone else, but I do understand that is the where Bentham froze the picture to use as his reference to make his decision.

I am also lead to believe (although I have not seen it) that the BBC technicians thought the exact opposite of the Sky technicians!!!
Go figure eh!!!

Maybe they should meet in the car park and have it out!

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Quote: Saddened! "No, not part of the presentation. They have scientifically proven that Smith was techncially offside.

But we'll not make an issue of it, whats done is done.'"


Scientifically proven? That's a hell of a claim. Or could it be that they're trying to wring the last drop of controversy out of the incident? I know which my money'd be on

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Clearwing "Scientifically proven? That's a hell of a claim. Or could it be that they're trying to wring the last drop of controversy out of the incident? I know which my money'd be on'"


It is also quite a strange word to use in the circumstances... scientifically proven! It would have been better had the word geometrically proven or even mathematically proven, but scientificaly proven!!!

Have Sky invented a new science and produced an on-side/off-side litmus paper! icon_lol.gif

It has everything to do with Sky wanting to keep the buzz going and the BBC also wanting to keep the buzz going by taking the opposite 'scientific' view.

It was a very close call that could have gone either way, Bentham and Ganson and the RFL did not have it in for you and Bentham opinion on a very tight call was different to yours... accept it and move on!

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Maybe they should meet in the car park and have it out!'"


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Quote: Saddened! "But we'll not make an issue of it, whats done is done.'"


Thats fine by me.

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "It is also quite a strange word to use in the circumstances... scientifically proven! It would have been better had the word geometrically proven or even mathematically proven, but scientificaly proven!!!

Have Sky invented a new science and produced an on-side/off-side litmus paper!
You may laugh. Give it a couple of years and it'll be as widely accepted as Einstein's laws of relativity, Planck's constant and Stevo's momentum rule... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "Excellent work

and the ball was hidden behind Pryce`s right leg (nearest the try line) as was seen on the Sky camera from the reverse angle.

so it is a very fine call indeed and with benefit to the attacking side was the right decision. Some you win some you lose. Just ask Wigan in the Semi-Final
Thats offside in any language you put it. Best team still won.

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Quote: smileysaint "Thats offside in any language you put it. Best team still won.'"


Do a perspective correction in photoshop. It is offside but by far less than I imagined e.g. cm. I do think this is one area Rugby Union has a better and much clearer ruling but then I suppose kicking all the time they have to.

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Quote: smileysaint "Do a perspective correction in photoshop. It is offside but by far less than I imagined e.g. cm. I do think this is one area Rugby Union has a better and much clearer ruling but then I suppose kicking all the time they have to.'"


Are you talking to yourself there?

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Quote: smileysaint "Thats offside in any language you put it. Best team still won.'"


Not the "official" language ie the current rule book...not one that Saints fans have invented to suit their arguement.

Has I keep pointing out on The Entertainers forum the winning margin was 8 points... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: DoubleAone "Not the "official" language ie the current rule book...not one that Saints fans have invented to suit their arguement.

Has I keep pointing out on The Entertainers forum the winning margin was 8 points...
Causality prevents that '8 point margin' being a reasonable argument.

Do you really think that Burrow would have still dropped a goal? No, of course not.

If the try is disallowed a different set of events would take place - which, to be fair, would probably be us failing to find touch with the penalty and Leeds scoring a try on their next set.

Even so your argument is redundant.

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