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Quote: SaintsFan "Partly, no doubt. However, the senior players are now in a collective with the two temporary coaches and so they are playing in their favoured positions which, for Meli, is on the wing (alas), and that means Foster wouldn't be playing even if he'd put in brilliant performances. Just as Makinson hasn't been playing even though he was in fine form (same for Dixon).'"



Utter rubbish! Players are playing in positions they should be and not where the idiot played them.

Makinson was been rested under Royce along with our other backs in Ade, wheeler, Meli and foster which was utter crazy.

Rush and KC have been using Meli and Ade as extra go forward like DA did which is paying off big time at the moment.

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Quote: Journeyman "Can any one tell me please anything about him, why is he not playing? is he injured? ive looked all over but cant find anything, mind you S/L news not so hot in the south.
Thanks for any info.'"
He has been dropped; justly so imo. Good goal kicker full stop.

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Quote: redex113 "He has been dropped; justly so imo. Good goal kicker full stop.'"


I don't think the word dropped is the correct word rush used wgen he took foster out. He is only young and needs to develop and a spell in the u20s will do him the world of good.

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Quote: St pete "Utter rubbish! Players are playing in positions they should be and not where the idiot played them.'"

So you weren't one of those saying Meli was playing well at centre? That he'd been a revelation there? No, of course you weren't! Like I've said previously, Mike Appleton tweeted after the Leeds game that it was great to see Meli happy playing his rugby again on the wing. Mark Flannagan on the Superleague Show said that some of the senior players had 'stepped up and shown their leadership qualities' since Royce left, which obviously implies they were doing neither while he was here. You will have noted that a few senior players are now playing in their expressed preferred positions, eg Meli on the wing, Wilkin at loose, etc. That doesn't mean they are playing in the best positions for them or, more importantly, for the team. Just that they prefer playing there. That more than suggests they have had a say in where they play, which is exactly what I posited.

Quote: St pete "Makinson was been rested under Royce along with our other backs in Ade, wheeler, Meli and foster which was utter crazy.'"

Had Makinson not been dropped for the last two games - a guy who was in form and playing well, so no reason to drop him - he would be better prepared to step in tomorrow to cover for Wello. As it is now he missed one week completely and played one week in an u20s loss, so he won't be as match ready. By rotating the squad Royce was keeping as many of his players as possible fresh should injuries hit (clearly he hadn't anticipated two bans in one go).

Quote: St pete "Rush and KC have been using Meli and Ade as extra go forward like DA did which is paying off big time at the moment.'"

Ade's been fantastic. But he was fantastic last season too until he suffered his snapped achilles. Ade's form has nothing to do with the change in coaching staff, just getting back to match fitness. At the time of his injury Royce said he needed Ade for his go forward and it was Royce who suggested that Ade be re-signed for two years, something that not many fans on here were pleased about towards the end of last season when Makinson was doing wonders out on that wing. Obviously you have forgotten.

Meli has occasionally taken the ball forward, this is true, but that won't last. It never does with Meli. He will pick the smallest bloke on the pitch and pass to him rather than take it up himself. Everybody knows this because he's always done it, sometimes across to Wello near the tryline causing fans to call him names from the terraces. Again, obviously you have forgotten.

I haven't.

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Quote: SaintsFan "So you weren't one of those saying Meli was playing well at centre? That he'd been a revelation there? No, of course you weren't! Like I've said previously, Mike Appleton tweeted after the Leeds game that it was great to see Meli happy playing his rugby again on the wing. Mark Flannagan on the Superleague Show said that some of the senior players had 'stepped up and shown their leadership qualities' since Royce left, which obviously implies they were doing neither while he was here. You will have noted that a few senior players are now playing in their expressed preferred positions, eg Meli on the wing, Wilkin at loose, etc. That doesn't mean they are playing in the best positions for them or, more importantly, for the team. Just that they prefer playing there. That more than suggests they have had a say in where they play, which is exactly what I posited.

Had Makinson not been dropped for the last two games - a guy who was in form and playing well, so no reason to drop him - he would be better prepared to step in tomorrow to cover for Wello. As it is now he missed one week completely and played one week in an u20s loss, so he won't be as match ready. By rotating the squad Royce was keeping as many of his players as possible fresh should injuries hit (clearly he hadn't anticipated two bans in one go).

Ade's been fantastic. But he was fantastic last season too until he suffered his snapped achilles. Ade's form has nothing to do with the change in coaching staff, just getting back to match fitness. At the time of his injury Royce said he needed Ade for his go forward and it was Royce who suggested that Ade be re-signed for two years, something that not many fans on here were pleased about towards the end of last season when Makinson was doing wonders out on that wing. Obviously you have forgotten.

Meli has occasionally taken the ball forward, this is true, but that won't last. It never does with Meli. He will pick the smallest bloke on the pitch and pass to him rather than take it up himself. Everybody knows this because he's always done it, sometimes across to Wello near the tryline causing fans to call him names from the terraces. Again, obviously you have forgotten.

I haven't.'"



Royce was resting backs every week, WTF was all that about? Gary wheeler got man of the match, signed new deal and then royce rested him!

Rush and KC have gone with what is best for the team, they knew we was struggling with go forward and used the old trick of big powerful wingers coming in and acting as forwards and our go forward has improved.

Do you think wello new found form is just based on Royce being sacked? Well it's not, he's being used less in trying to clear our line as the wingers ate now doing his donkey work which allows wello to do the things he does best and get into postions he's getting in.

It's pretty clear to see that rush is using the Anderson style that served us so well and it's working so far.

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Quote: St pete "Do you think wello new found form is just based on Royce being sacked? '"

Nothing new found about it. He was great at Bradford. He was great last year too, before his achilles problem. I've no idea why you think that question was relevant to what I said?

As for Gary Wheeler, since he has now been absent for two matches due to injury do you really need to ask why Royce rested him? Royce said why himself: he wanted to try and avoid injuries to keep his players fresh for later in the season as he felt they were out on their feet by that time and that is why they were losing the Grand Finals. Royce wanted to help them to win the Grand Final. He was quite clear about that on more than one occasion. That was his reason for rotating the squad. Injuries can't be avoided altogether, obviously, but he had it right where Wheeler was concerned, as we all know.

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Saintsfan you blind faith for the last pillock that coached us is laughable. We were f@@@ing boring, constantly repeated the same mistakes, discipline was woeful & selections frankly mind boggling. Resting players was a luxury we couldnt afford given our need for points, performances & league position.
His dictorial style of coaching left us predictable, boring & incapable of scoring points.
Cant believe anyone was happy watching that e. The GF was in the past, when Graham & Robys performances papered over the cracks. Good riddence, obviously the players felt the same.

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Quote: theres only one stan wall "Saintsfan you blind faith for the last pillock that coached us is laughable. We were f@@@ing boring, constantly repeated the same mistakes, discipline was woeful & selections frankly mind boggling. Resting players was a luxury we couldnt afford given our need for points, performances & league position.
His dictorial style of coaching left us predictable, boring & incapable of scoring points.
Cant believe anyone was happy watching that poop. The GF was in the past, when Graham & Robys performances papered over the cracks. Good riddence, obviously the players felt the same.'"


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Quote: SaintsFan "Nothing new found about it. He was great at Bradford. He was great last year too, before his achilles problem. I've no idea why you think that question was relevant to what I said?

As for Gary Wheeler, since he has now been absent for two matches due to injury do you really need to ask why Royce rested him? Royce said why himself


Strange, you've be calling for makinson to replace wello at fullback so your contradicting yourself.

What a terrible and shocking idea of resting backs. Makinson, wheeler and foster was constantly rested, they are young lads! WTF!!!

You look very stupid over the last few weeks with your backing of Royce Simmons and having arguments every day because you won't just admit he was total gash, the worst coach we've had, totally clueless, boring idiot!

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Quote: St pete "Strange, you've be calling for makinson to replace wello at fullback so your contradicting yourself.'"

Eh? I didn't call for Makinson to replace Wello, at least not in the post you replied to. I want Makinson in the first team on a weekly basis, yes, because he is a very, very good young player who was doing nothing wrong. We all wanted Makinson to replace Wello, you included. And I do want Makinson to replace Wello. But just now I'd be more than happy for him to replace Meli, who should not have been put back on the wing in the first place, and most definitely not at the expense of Makinson.

Quote: St pete "What a terrible and shocking idea of resting backs. Makinson, wheeler and foster was constantly rested, they are young lads! WTF!!!'"

Now you are just being an a r s e. You've changed your mind completely about Foster, for instance.

Quote: St pete "You look very stupid over the last few weeks with your backing of Royce Simmons and having arguments every day because you won't just admit he was total gash, the worst coach we've had, totally clueless, boring idiot!'"

I looked stupid when I said that Lance Hohaia will make a good halfback. People took the p i s s and you especially did, saying he was no halfback, etc, etc. Hey. I was right. He looks good at halfback. I looked stupid when I said some of our senior players needed a kick up the backside as they weren't bending their backs. People took the p i s s then too, probably including you. Hey. I was right. They are now bending their backs.

People taking the p i s s out of me is par for the course. However, quite often I turn out to be right. I expect those same people to then experience selective anmesia, which they do. As you are doing now. That and you are your usual drunk self of course.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Eh? I didn't call for Makinson to replace Wello, at least not in the post you replied to. I want Makinson in the first team on a weekly basis, yes, because he is a very, very good young player who was doing nothing wrong. We all wanted Makinson to replace Wello, you included. And I do want Makinson to replace Wello. But just now I'd be more than happy for him to replace Meli, who should not have been put back on the wing in the first place, and most definitely not at the expense of Makinson.

Now you are just being an a r s e. You've changed your mind completely about Foster, for instance.

I looked stupid when I said that Lance Hohaia will make a good halfback. People took the p i s s and you especially did, saying he was no halfback, etc, etc. Hey. I was right. He looks good at halfback. I looked stupid when I said some of our senior players needed a kick up the backside as they weren't bending their backs. People took the p i s s then too, probably including you. Hey. I was right. They are now bending their backs.

People taking the p i s s out of me is par for the course. However, quite often I turn out to be right. I expect those same people to then experience selective anmesia, which they do. As you are doing now. That and you are your usual drunk self of course.'"


How have I changed my mind on Jamie?

Im still not convinced that lance is a halfback but I held held my hand up after the Leeds game and said maybe I was wrong but one game don't make a player. The following week lance was averse, his kicking was totally shocking! I'm willing to give him a chance to prove himself at halfback.

The difference between me and , I'm willing to accept if I'm wrong and won't stay bitter. Your that bitter I get the feeling your just waiting for a defeat so you can bag rush and KC and tell us all how good Royce was.

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Quote: theres only one stan wall "Saintsfan you blind faith for the last pillock that coached us is laughable. We were f@@@ing boring, constantly repeated the same mistakes, discipline was woeful & selections frankly mind boggling. '"

Which season are you talking about here?

Are you saying that, for example, our discipline was woeful against the Catalans Dragons? Against Salford? Against London? Did we make loads of mistakes in those games? What was wrong with the selections in those games? I'm sure you won't answer and it really doesn't matter if you do or don't.

Personally, I'm more concerned with what is going to happen once the big games are over with, the ones that require a proper coaching team in place, the ones when maybe our senior players don't feel quite up to doing the work, when talk of pride in the shirt and all that bollox has worn off. There will be plenty of those occasions. I'm just keeping my feet on the ground in anticipation of them.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Eh? I didn't call for Makinson to replace Wello, at least not in the post you replied to. I want Makinson in the first team on a weekly basis, yes, because he is a very, very good young player who was doing nothing wrong. We all wanted Makinson to replace Wello, you included. And I do want Makinson to replace Wello. But just now I'd be more than happy for him to replace Meli, who should not have been put back on the wing in the first place, and most definitely not at the expense of Makinson.

Now you are just being an a r s e. You've changed your mind completely about Foster, for instance.

I looked stupid when I said that Lance Hohaia will make a good halfback. People took the p i s s and you especially did, saying he was no halfback, etc, etc. Hey. I was right. He looks good at halfback. I looked stupid when I said some of our senior players needed a kick up the backside as they weren't bending their backs. People took the p i s s then too, probably including you. Hey. I was right. They are now bending their backs.

People taking the p i s s out of me is par for the course. However, quite often I turn out to be right. I expect those same people to then experience selective anmesia, which they do. As you are doing now. That and you are your usual drunk self of course.'"



If Royce was such a good coach why couldn't he give the senior players a kick up the backside?

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Quote: St pete "The difference between me and , I'm willing to accept if I'm wrong and won't stay bitter. Your that bitter I get the feeling your just waiting for a defeat so you can bag rush and KC and tell us all how good Royce was.'"

icon_lol.gif Jeez, Pete, you can be so ridiculously childish sometimes!

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Quote: SaintsFan "Which season are you talking about here?

Are you saying that, for example, our discipline was woeful against the Catalans Dragons? Against Salford? Against London? Did we make loads of mistakes in those games? What was wrong with the selections in those games? I'm sure you won't answer and it really doesn't matter if you do or don't.

Personally, I'm more concerned with what is going to happen once the big games are over with, the ones that require a proper coaching team in place, the ones when maybe our senior players don't feel quite up to doing the work, when talk of pride in the shirt and all that bollox has worn off. There will be plenty of those occasions. I'm just keeping my feet on the ground in anticipation of them.'"



It makes a change from being concerned if we will a game at all, no matter who we are playing!

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       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
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Thu 19th Sep
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
SL
20:00
Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Leeds
SL
20:00
Leigh-St.Helens
SL
20:00
Warrington-LondonB
Sat 21st Sep
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
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