Like Soliola was this year, Perry will be like a new signing next year, our squad with cover next year could be
1 Wellens Lance Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton Wheeler
4 Meli Soliola Wheeler
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell Wheeler
7 Lomax Lance
8 LMS Puletua Laffrichi Forster
9 Roby Flanaghan
10 Perry Clough Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin Flanaghan
13 Puletua Flannery

Theres plenty of cover there (which we made need if injuries are the same as this year!)

You can't have first team players as cover in other positions

Going off your list if Lomax gets injured, we're up the creek.

1 Wellens Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton
4 Meli
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell
7 Lomax
8 LMS Forster
9 Roby
10 Perry Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin
13 Puletua Flannery

14 Clough
15 Laffranchi
16 Flanaghan
17 Wheeler

If we look at your starting 17 instead of 13, removing the cover avaialbale, then we look a little bit thin on the ground if any of them pick up injuries, particularly at prop, where really we only have Magennis, and Forster. When Perry limps off after 10 minutes, and the ageing Laffranchi second rower struggles to fill Grahams boots, we could be stoofed quite quickly.

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You're beginning to sound like saddened.

cheer up , at least you can see your team stuggle next year, in comfortable surroundings

Some fans seem to have forgotten that there are young players who will be knocking on the door of the first team next season but who weren't ready this season. How do we know that one of them is not better than Lomax in the halves? Or at least just as good to stand in? Our squad isn't set in stone. We can always add more young players. I guess that's the beauty of having a good youth setup.

I think you will find that most Super League Clubs have good youth set ups it just takes time for them to develop, even in your "beauty" of a good youth set up you still have to plunder other clubs youth Shelton and Louis MS? LOL!

Also Top Saint states "Absolutely right. In our own, wholly owned, comfortable surroundings." I wonder what the deeds do say? is it completely & fully owned, a lot of Council's and Development Boards when they invest are using tax payers money so they like it to be part owned by & for the community? St Helens may be different.

Plunder? Do you know what the word means? Clearly not! We signed one Cas player and one London player. On Sunday against Wigan we played three foreign players, said Cas and London players plus Wilkin who is from Hull (but who has been with us 10 years next season), and the rest were local lads who had come through our youth system. I think you'll find we lead the way again this season in the number of young and home grown players we have played. That sets us apart in this area.


The stadium is fully owned by the club. The whole site is owned by the developers, Langtree. The council paid for the site to be cleansed and redeveloped (infrastructure) and Tesco paid only for itself. They are the facts of the matter but please don't let that undermine your bitterness.

Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.

Maybe, that sonny bill Williams might be worth a punt as he might make a good rugby league player

Maurie came good once he got fit and Dom Feaunati brought some bite to the backline.

Funny how Dom was the one who signed as a "cert" to be a success and Maurie was bought as a gamble who would progress slowly!