Bad bad day at the office , poor team , only good thing we got going for us is warrington are a poor team with halfs

Not read the thread but I agree with the title of the thread. We was bad and I was totally embarrassed.

If that's the sort of showing this team puts in when a cup is on offer then I'm glad we won't make old Trafford as it would be a record score.

I'm not going to bag tommy as he's been good nearly every week for past two seasons and that's the worst he's ever played so it's not right IMO to bag him off and I put that down to his bad night at the office.

McDonall is a waste of space, he's dead with the ball and surely we can't offer him a deal.

Jordan Turner was woeful. He can't play that role, it's so predicable what he's going to do. He's not playing what he sees, he's playing what he's been doing on the training field and just going thru that procedure. His passing was woeful. He's not good enough at centre never mind the ball playing role.

Amor been shocking for few weeks now, he doesn't look right to me, he's going down to easy.

I like Manu but IMO he's shot and I wouldn't offer him a one year deal, never mind a two. He looked off the pace last night apart from his try which he took very well.

I'd like to see Thompson brought back into the 17. He's been very unlucky not to be playing and IMO should play every week now.

If that's the "only good thing" you've "got going for you" then I really despair Barry...what a top post

I don't think we have improved at all, except that when Walsh is on the pitch we can play some glorious rugby league and our wingers actually get some ball.

So we haven't improved at all, except for a signing that improved us? Interesting.

Fully agree, I can accept the defeat with the missing players or when the opposition is the better team but not this lack of commitment or attitude to the red vee shirt.

Saddened and myself last season and early this season and probably some older fans where saying this current team is an Alien one and very un saints like, Potter and Simmons lost the heartbeat of the club and Brown has to retort with laid back excuses.

This current Jeckyll and Hyde team is baffling, mentally very weak and not willing to physically adjust when the going gets tough.

I would be tempted to throw some young forwards back into the team. I can understand when Manu, Amor and others came back the young lads slipped down the pecking order. It's natural. But the young lads whilst not amazing going forwards, would have not been suckered in so many times like last night.

But who do you drop???

Everyone will have their favourite. LMS who has hit form. Mose who can be a wrecking ball when he's not a pudding. Amor possibly our best prop. Walmsley who makes great average gains.

For me I would drop Laffranchi. He does not seem to have added to the squad since coming back. I thought he would add some steal to the defense but actually it could be anyone there. I would also be tempted to drop one of Manu or Sia. Again both very good, but something seems not to be right.

I would not chop and change too much so maybe 2 forwards and let the backs try and recover some of their embarrassment. But doing nothing would indicate that it is acceptable if you are a big name to underperform and that is one thing we need to learn from Wigan. It's the performance not the name that matters when it comes to the big games.

You may have noticed that the one signing who improved us isn't playing. Brown has had two seasons with the rest of them but they still don't look any better than they did last season. And that includes the games where we have been atrocious in spite of Walsh playing.

LOL.

I love such insightful analysis.

Who do we drop you ask. Well based on form, any of the forwards could be dropped. The last two weeks they have been fisted.

I wouldn't pick laffranchi again. He's not earned a spot, he offers nothing and he's not here next year.

Yes that was my badly hidden agenda; but I still stick to my opinion; Wheeler should have played.
Hi Ho was awful last season and part of this and impressed no one, but we gave him other (several) chances.

This "new" system that NB has put in place seems to be play with one HB and hope the forwards will blast their way through. Pure genius.

It could have been a whole lot worse. They have never really nailed us! like 80 0 for example. A small club who have had a bit of glory with low class fans.

you are really a hard lot to please..2pts clear with 1 game left..hit hard by injuries no half backs,many a club would be only to pleased to swap with you...go on the leeds board and read there bilge..you`ll find life aint to bad

It's the hope that kills you ...

But we knew before a ball was kicked this season that Lance wasn't a SL-class halfback, Wheeler was made of biscuit, and Lomax was one-dimensional at halfback. Regardless of injuries, we were going into the season ill-prepared.

Why no back-up? We've allegedly had room within the Cap all season. But even discounting bringing someone in, why isn't Brown grooming a halfback from the Academy? Why did Charnock (who can actually kick in open play) make his debut two seasons ago and hasn't had a sniff since, despite many who watch the Academy telling me he could do a job? Why persist in playing non-half backs from the first team squad at halfback, when they aren't up to it?