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Quote: stles "icon_lol.gif Do you actully know the first thing about rugby league? sleepy.gif

If you're going to indulge in childish comments I suggest you try to be original, k?

Meanwhile, the Gardner wing was a turnstile against Warrington and other than a try Gardner offered naff all.

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Quote: SaintsFan "If he is then that is exactly as I predicted. Gardner was utter garbage last week letting in more tries than I can remember yet he will always play, as indeed will Meli, regardless of form.'"



I don't think TM deserves to be dropped, whereas....Gardner..........was poo last time out. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: FearTheVee "About time we saw what Turner can do at 6 IMO in the circumstances, albeit I would have had a look in an "easier" game.

It's a shame we lose his strike out wide, but I have a feeling Turner at 6 could well be the answer until the end of the season or the unlikely return of a fit Wheeler.

Jones is capable in the centres and on the face of it this move is infinitelyy preferable to seeing Ashe/Lance/Howarth/Wellens at 6.

Good luck to Turner/O'Brien if this is indeed how we line up.'"


I'm sure Turner played 6 at a home game a couple of weeks ago?

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Quote: FearTheVee "About time we saw what Turner can do at 6 IMO in the circumstances, albeit I would have had a look in an "easier" game.'"


He's played there at least twice this season already, and was awful.

Quote: FearTheVee "It's a shame we lose his strike out wide'"


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d040.gif was not a comment ...was a perfectly resonable question judging by your posts, that i suppose you will avoid as always?

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You're pi$$ing in the wind pal. She gets proven wrong on a daily basis and just carries on regardless and ignores those that point out her faults.

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I surprised to see makinson dropped would of thought Gardner would of misses out

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "You're pi$$ing in the wind pal. She gets proven wrong on a daily basis and just carries on regardless and ignores those that point out her faults.'"

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Quote: Saints4eva2013 "I surprised to see makinson dropped would of thought Gardner would of misses out'"

Me too. Although I'm not actually surprised by it. It was rather predictable.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Me too. Although I'm not actually surprised by it. It was rather predictable.'"

True the past shows it easyer to drop makinson then the other two

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I can see the merit in Turner at 6, however at this stage of the season that surely puts the kybosh on Lance returning to 6 and Ashe.

I'm not overly bothered about that, but I can't see Turner being a 6 for next year. So we must be looking for a 6 for next year or there is huge faith in Wheelers fitness.

I'm never one to defend the Saints Fan, but the Makinson one is a bit of a puzzler to me. However we can't discount him being injured, or Brown pulling a fast one. But since Gardners performances of 2012, I've not seen as much this year to be enthusied about. Last year he had better go forward than Makinson returning the ball, but I think Makinson has improved in this area and his stats support this, he has as good a good forward as Meli in terms of average gain, he gets into dummy half to support his forwards. And is low on penalties.

Like I say it could be for any reason, but if dropped for performance then I can't agree on that.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I can see the merit in Turner at 6, however at this stage of the season that surely puts the kybosh on Lance returning to 6 and Ashe.

I'm not overly bothered about that, but I can't see Turner being a 6 for next year. So we must be looking for a 6 for next year or there is huge faith in Wheelers fitness.

I'm never one to defend the Saints Fan, but the Makinson one is a bit of a puzzler to me. However we can't discount him being injured, or Brown pulling a fast one. But since Gardners performances of 2012, I've not seen as much this year to be enthusied about. Last year he had better go forward than Makinson returning the ball, but I think Makinson has improved in this area and his stats support this, he has as good a good forward as Meli in terms of average gain, he gets into dummy half to support his forwards. And is low on penalties.

Like I say it could be for any reason, but if dropped for performance then I can't agree on that.'"


Makinson should be at FB or on the wing given the players available for tonight.

If he has been dropped rather than injured he is very unfortunate and I can't agree with the decision.

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Quote: Saints4eva2013 "True the past shows it easyer to drop makinson then the other two'"

Exactly.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'm never one to defend the Saints Fan, but the Makinson one is a bit of a puzzler to me. '"

You're not defending me there either. You're simply able to appreciate my point.

And hey, you didn't die as a result now did you?

To add to the valid points you made about Makinson, there is also the potential for a very pacey and skillful left edge combination between him, Percy and Manu. Manu had the same impact on Yeaman and Briscoe when at Hull. I think it would be foolish to split that threesome up as it could be a real strike threat as we enter the business end of the season. If Meli has to play then he should play on the right edge, with Turner as his centre. Gardner is a poorer winger than Makinson these days.

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