O'Loughlin has been showed up well for England, so yes, I'd be more than inclined ot agree with you.

They play for the Superleague Champions of 2007, 2008, & 2009 - remind me of who you support dipstick outcome try

Sinfield Off load in tackle
outcome Try, + goal

Peacock off load in tackle
outcome Try + goal

Smith doing facial with forearm conceded penalty
outcome Try

TOTAL 20 POINTS,
Just remind me who these guys play for?

Bless you also my son - let me know which of the Saints players have merited selection FFS it really pathetic on this forum Sour grapes or what

PS I actually agree with Eastmond - great player BUT which others ? Is Wilkin still posing for photos ????

It was at Wigan not St Helens

Danny "sidewards - the same player who can handle the Superleague trophy while you lot watch - unless you have gone running to your cars for a quick exit from the finals

I think i posted similar on the VT on the day we badly miss him from the forwards on a day like Saturday while he doesn't always shine in attack he never lets anyone down in defence. Had he started SR instead of Peacock our RHS wouldn't have been half as exposed to Inglis. McGuire and Smith looked like lost children at times but Peacock taking 10 seconds to slide across badly affected them defensively - this was to me the coaches fault putting square pegs in round holes.

Ultimately i don't think we will compete with either Aus or the Kiwis until we get our line speed sorted - time & again they were on the front foot because we didn't get in their faces Lockyer & Thurston had an age before they kicked there was no kick pressure, our forwards are as good if not better than theirs but beacuse they get up and at us when they tackle we are stifled & kicks are invariably rushed, plop and straight into Slater's arms

Back O/T Leeds fans defending McGuire is the complete mirror image of Saints fans defending Pryce last year, stats can show positive things about any player - try assists are the last pass, doesn't mean they have made the break, threw a wonder ball or done any hard work but it makes a good stat.

He was plop on Saturday, he wasn't the only one & he wasn't helped by the lack of go forward but he certainly didn't help himself with some decisions, for the experienced head in our backs he was badly exposed.

He has been somewhat over hyped in his career but mainly by Eddie & Stevo to be fair to Leeds fans, he isn't just the support monkey he was when he started but he is by no means the complete SO either, he doesn't look cut out to be a leader & organiser at international level which is what his role was on Saturday.

If he is to play on Saturday he would be far better going back to his support roll and playing on the shoulder as we sorely miss that at this level.

NAME the team dipstick Ps PROVE it by results !!!!

By the way, I support the Super Bulls, but can give credit where it is due.

Stop making a fool of of yourself matey

That's a fair assessment.