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| Quote Lefty="Lefty"Sounds right. It was the fact that Salford are going nowhere that he wanted to leave. Plus he actually wanted to come to Warrington believe it or not. He got a hefty pay increase as well.'"
That was probably the first payment. I believe there are other payments due dependent on number of appearances etc.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"That was probably the first payment. I believe there are other payments due dependent on number of appearances etc.'"
you'd expect so - most players have performance related clauses in their contracts especially young ones.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"That was probably the first payment. I believe there are other payments due dependent on number of appearances etc.'"
Nope.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Can't we pay him by the inch?'" 
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| Quote Eric_Cartman_is_a_saint="Eric_Cartman_is_a_saint"The value of a player doesnt go on the balance sheet :s'"
I know, which is why i wrote....
Quote Eric_Cartman_is_a_saint="tm - tl"90K a year he's getting at Wire.'"
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he might be a big boy and they might regret saying something like that! 
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| I think Saints are being wise. I've no idea what they offered him, obviously, and it could be low or it could have been very reasonable given that he is potential rather than proven. Either way, it would be foolish to pay the kind of sum Offiah will be asking to someone who has yet to prove himself in the job. He had a great chance to show that he could begin to boss the team while Longy was out with his jaw but he didn't show any signs of doing that for however many weeks it was that he was covering. Will he be able to do so next year? Who knows. Eastmond is clearly a talent but whether that translates to a talented 7 I think is yet to be seen. If he performs the role we need next season then I'd say we should be offering him an impressive inducement to stay with us. If not, either we offer him something reasonable to play in another position or we let him go IMO. Saints cannot be held to ransom over one player because overall we will suffer as a result.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I think Saints are being wise. I've no idea what they offered him, obviously, and it could be low or it could have been very reasonable given that he is potential rather than proven. Either way, it would be foolish to pay the kind of sum Offiah will be asking to someone who has yet to prove himself in the job. He had a great chance to show that he could begin to boss the team while Longy was out with his jaw but he didn't show any signs of doing that for however many weeks it was that he was covering. Will he be able to do so next year? Who knows. Eastmond is clearly a talent but whether that translates to a talented 7 I think is yet to be seen. If he performs the role we need next season then I'd say we should be offering him an impressive inducement to stay with us. If not, either we offer him something reasonable to play in another position or we let him go IMO. Saints cannot be held to ransom over one player because overall we will suffer as a result.'"
So you don't know what they've offered him and you don't know what Offiah is asking, so how can you make a judgement if it's reasonable or not?
Basically everyone is guessing.
IMO what Saints (and every other club have to do is to avoid paying what they can't afford, and / or setting a precedent for the next young player coming through who will want / expect a similar deal.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"So you don't know what they've offered him and you don't know what Offiah is asking, so how can you make a judgement if it's reasonable or not?'"
I think it is reasonable that we are waiting to see what Eastmond can deliver. He has not yet delivered on the organisation front, at all, and also he does have a tendency to disappear in games (we have one of those already), blubber a bit when hit and sometimes heads for the line in search of glory when he should be passing out to his team mates. He was spot on with his game on Saturday but on Saturday he played at centre. He could be a brilliant centre in the making but would he take that spot? Or, like Pryce with his 6, does he think he must be a 7 at all costs even if he turns out to be a poor one? These are the things the club needs to know before shelling out sums of money that presently hurt us.
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| Eastmond is Saints best young player by a very long way.
They should do their best to keep him. As for him having a good season at 7 before he is offered another contract doesn't make any sense at all.
No one seems to know his best position but he doesn't appear to be a playmaker 7.
The last two games I've seen him he's played centre and whilst he doesn't look a natural centre he looks far better there than at 7. In fact when he was on the wing and went for the corner he looked a more natural wingman than either Gardner or Meli have done for years. OK he didn't score but it took Sinfield's career best tackle to stop him. I was in the North Stand opposite and from where I was Eastmond went like a bullet.
A few people have said he reminds them of Jason Robinson. They may be nearer than they think. Robinson came to Wigan as a 7 and couldn't hack it. Wigan tried him on the wing and we all know the rest. Could Eastmond be the same? I think he very well could be.
It's time we all started to complain about the clubs and the RFL allowing our best talent to depart to Union. Lee Smith signed months ago and Shaun Edwards has a real telented player there. Hetherington has never appeared bothered that he's losing a great talent. From the comments by McManus he seems to have the same view.
If we are to keep our best talent we are going to have to work hard to keep them. The RFL and some club chairmen don't appear to be working at keeping them at all.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"They should do their best to keep him. As for him having a good season at 7 before he is offered another contract doesn't make any sense at all.
No one seems to know his best position but he doesn't appear to be a playmaker 7. '"
Which is why I mentioned the bit about him playing at centre and whether he would be happy with that and whether he, like Pryce, sees himself in just one position. Such factors as those will also play a part in negotiations. If he thinks he's the best 7 ever and will take nothing else but we don't think he is the best 7 ever but instead, say, think he's the best centre we've seen in this country for donkeys, it's highly unlikely he would stay. But should Saints keep him anyway and play him at 7 just because he has a lot of talent?
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