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| Quote: bewareshadows "A question was asked about why was Greenwood not playing in Catalan. I answered suggesting with Manu available that it was likely he was stood down for that game.
Then it all went big bannana with some very heavy reading between the lines into a hatred of Manu to be forced out the team.'"
Hatred was perhaps too strong a word to use.
However Manu certainly is lacking in love on these boards, and has been since signing for us.
The comment wasn't particularly aimed at this thread, but a general pattern in which the likes of Flanagan and Soliola are lauded, while Wilkin and Manu are degraded.
Similarly LMS comes in for loads of stick by a wide number of people, yet when it comes to Masoe there is only Pete and one or two others criticizing his performances. The rest all come across as being in awe of his one decent run a game.
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| Quote: Arthur Warrior "2.8 SENTENCING GUIDELINES FOR EACH GRADE OF OFFENCE
GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION
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A NFA -1
B 1 – 2
C 2 -3
D 3-5
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F 8+ or period suspension
2.9 NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGES – GUIDELINES ONLY
Players and Clubs should be aware that the normal suspension ranges are guidelines only and the
Tribunal has the discretion to step outside of the normal ranges in the following three
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Good to see they have a get out clause of being consistent, Thanks for explaining it better.
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| Quote: St pete "How can walmsley get a ban and peacock not?
The Leigh guy who started it with peacock didn't even get charged!'"
Oh for gods sake, did you really need to ask that question? you can not look at what was reported and see for yourself?
Incidents are not the same no matter how anyone want's to portray them. And records are not the same, regardless of what fantasy people live in.
It's funny how you compare the Walmsley one, because he got banned, but don't mention the Roby one, which went without ban for the same reasons as Peacock.
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| The problem with this season is us fans just can't seem to decide on who the scapegoat is. I thought it was developing into LMS but then people keep derailing it to other players. Come on posters, pick a scapegoat and stick with it. This is confusing the team when nobody knows who the scapegoat is to pile all the blame onto.
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| Quote: Donkey OTay "The problem with this season is us fans just can't seem to decide on who the scapegoat is. I thought it was developing into LMS but then people keep derailing it to other players. Come on posters, pick a scapegoat and stick with it. This is confusing the team when nobody knows who the scapegoat is to pile all the blame onto.'"
Don't you think that several names have been picked out for poor performances actually states the obvious? The whole team except the odd player are playing poor.
My point is, why can LMS, Turner, wello, flash etc yet the big pudding doesn't?
Someone said drop Manu next week because he was poor, he's been out 8 weeks yet the pudding still getting away with doing nothing over half eat through the season.
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| I think there is a growing obsession of certain fans on here who are over critical,
Fan A = LMS, Fan B = Wello, Fan C = Wilkin, Fan D = Mose, Fan E = Brown. You all know who you are, its OK having an opinion but the repetiveness is turning into a bitch feast something similarly to VT.
Players have good, bad, average performances over varying periods of time, sometimes players are tactically not used efficiently in a game, some play with injuries.
A true fan will support the saints shirt and whoever wears it at the time, most fans make there point without having to repetively force there opinion on others...........otherwise its boring.
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| Quote: Judder Man "I think there is a growing obsession of certain fans on here who are over critical,
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And some players are just outright lazy and don't care win or lose. When I pay good money to watch and support the club then that's the thing I expect of every player in respect of ability
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| Quote: Judder Man "I think there is a growing obsession of certain fans on here who are over critical,
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And some fans sit on their high horse making a fool of themselves!
Quote: Judder Man "A true fan will support the saints shirt and whoever wears it at the time, most fans make there point without having to repetively force there opinion on others...........otherwise its boring.'"
Eh up. It's the 'true fan' rubbish again. Supporting a team isn't about saying they're all great all the time. It's about turning up at matches whenever money and opportunity arises. Criticism is perfectly valid just as it is when us mere mortals don't perform in our workplaces to the standard expected of us.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "And some fans sit on their high horse making a fool of themselves!
Eh up. It's the 'true fan' rubbish again. Supporting a team isn't about saying they're all great all the time. It's about turning up at matches whenever money and opportunity arises. Criticism is perfectly valid just as it is when us mere mortals don't perform in our workplaces to the standard expected of us.'"
There is a difference between Dogmatic Ranting and Crticism, I think I would prefer the opinions of the late Minnie Cotton.
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| Quote: Judder Man "There is a difference between Dogmatic Ranting and Crticism, I think I would prefer the opinions of the late Minnie Cotton.'"
Some people criticise via dogmatic ranting; others do it in a more subtle fashion. It isn't for you to lecture anyone.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Some people criticise via dogmatic ranting; others do it in a more subtle fashion. It isn't for you to lecture anyone.'"
It could be
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| Quote: bewareshadows "It could be
Nah. I think not.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Nah. I think not.'"
What if he's a lecturer though?
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "What if he's a lecturer though?'"
Then he needs to keep his lecturing in the lecture hall!
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| Well the deflection seems to be working 9 messages from post and we,ve not criticised a player to date.
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