So there are no extenuating circumstances.

Really?

And you're not injured unless you're visibly strapped?

And there's no way Wello came back to early to help out with the appalling injury situation?

Ok then.

Royce Out!

I'm also very proud of them but still think some sloppy defence cost us at times.

You're getting silly now, so I think I will leave this. We'll have to agree to disagree.

As for Royce out ... far from it. I think he's done wonders with them given the hand he has been dealt. He can't force his team to defend, only give them the tools to use if they choose to.

So is there only me who came away with a mediocum of pride tonight?

We have cobbled together a side, with out 6th and 8th choice half backs, lost two players mid game, and still every player ran their blood to water. Yes, we missed stupid tackles, and yes we made stupid errors. But add Puletua and either Pryce, Lomax or Wheeler (and heavens to betsy, Eastmond) to that side, and it looks infinitely better.

We have a lot of kids starting to stand up, Magennis is putting in some bell ringing hits, Foster looks like he could beak the line on every return.

A couple of bodies back and the out look is not so bleak.

NEVER write off the Saints.

Very proud of the young players. And Roby. But the defensive effort was still poor. And some of the senior players were shocking defensively. I would have been bursting with pride had they kept Hudds to about 20 points. But they didn't. So they were marginally better than Harlequins.

Not sure which part of it is silly.

You did say there were no extenuating circumstances.

You did say only Ashe is forgiven missed tackles and poor positioning because he had strapping.

But I suspect agreeing to disagree is the way to go.

Gin and tonic?

I'd prefer a Southern Comfort please. A tripple. Neat. Thx.

I know you have injuries and as Eddie pointed out once or twice, players missing but surely the likes of;-
Wellans
Meli
Soliola
Shenton
Gardner
Foster
Graham
Roby
Perry
Wilkin
Mcarthy-Scarsbrook

Surely these players would get in when you have a fully fit squad?

Granted you had no halfbacks but IMO your pack was well beaten today and any halfbacks may have stuggled

Where were all the Saints fans who traveled over to Huddersfield tonight at full time ? I'll tell you where...Still inside the ground applauding their team off the field. True supporters to a man. Good luck for the rest of the season and well done.

Well said sir.

Eddie was banging on about us having ten players out and I'm not sure if thas true or not.

What I can say, we had wheeler, Pryce, lomax, Tony p, Moore, clough, flannery missing from our starting 17 and maybe eastmond.

That's 8 missing from our starting 17.

Flannery as well.

It's not about numbers today. We've had a whole half season with several out each week. The effect that has on the players cannot be underestimated. It stops them being rested, stops them being rotated properly and most importantly causes massive confusion and disorganisation in the defensive and attacking patterns. One of the most crucial things this season has been our lack of consistency in the half back positions.

Very true. It's not just the numbers but the fact players ain't getting the rest periods they need during the game, players playing with injuries and training must be a real mess with no fit players making it hard to prepare for the games.

Absolutely not kidder, in fact everyone that travelled over knowing we were on a hiding to nothing felt the same.