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I think given the roles Rush has had at Saints, he is more than capable of seeing over the next part of our transition into the best team in Super League.

Give him chance folks, it seems some are quick to deem Rush as a failure before he has even fully taken his opportunity as CEO.

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I think the deeming him a failure comes back to last year. I too was frustrated with the stagnation that we had last year.

BUT

When you look at stagnation compared to the decline in the first part of 2012, then stagnation was in fact an improvement.

I think it's always hard to be dispassionate about sport, but that passion can cloud our expectations. For me last year was all about a holding pattern. Rush was asked to do that and did it. Job done. This job has nothing to do with last year and most fans would never have know who he was if it was not for last year.

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He's been in the job for less than 24 hours and the cladding announcement is made. The man is clearly a hero on the rampage to resolve the key issues at the club.

Well done Rushy!

Now, operation cladgate is progressing well, can we accelerate operation 'bring the half back' now?

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Quote: SaintsFan "I haven't forgotten that at all. But he's first and foremost a businessman (top 50 banker in his prime) and he will want to protect his assets. Surrounding himself with buddies is the way forward in that regard.

I'm getting very weary of hearing the 'we must be grateful to McManus for bailing us out' line. It is out of date. If he wants the fans to be forever grateful then he'll soon learn a lesson in humankind because there is only so much gratitude to go around. Once the gratitude well runs dry, less admirable feelings can take their place.

But I am sure that McManus will not want fans to be endlessly grateful to him for doing exactly what he wanted to do for himself. I am sure he knows human nature much better than that.'"


I'm very grateful to him, but the again I have been a supporter for 30 odd years not a few like some. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want eternal gratitude either but he does deserve a lot more respect than some numptys on here are giving him!! icon_stupid.gif

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Quote: Top Saint "I'm very grateful to him, but the again I have been a supporter for 30 odd years not a few like some. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want eternal gratitude either but he does deserve a lot more respect than some numptys on here are giving him!!

I missed that little line.

So bailing us out over a period of what was it 6 or 7 seasons, then raising the funding to build a £20million stadium buys you exactly 1 year of gratitude.

And not even that from some quarters.

I understand the discussion about recruitment but there is a split between questioning recruitment in terms of sound decision making and commitment to the cause.

I have no doubt on his commitment to the cause and it would take a seriously long run of very poor results before I started calling for him to go.

Trust me we have had nothing like a long run of seriously poor results. To me that would equate to a similar position as to what Castleford find themselves in on a regular basis.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I missed that little line.

So bailing us out over a period of what was it 6 or 7 seasons, then raising the funding to build a £20million stadium buys you exactly 1 year of gratitude.

And not even that from some quarters.

I understand the discussion about recruitment but there is a split between questioning recruitment in terms of sound decision making and commitment to the cause.'"

Having followed the club long enough to remember how it used to be run before he showed up, I will always be grateful for how he has turned us around as a club. Some mistakes have been made over the last two or three years but I remain confident that once we can offload some of our overseas deadwood at the end of the season we'll be able to put things right.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I missed that little line.

So bailing us out over a period of what was it 6 or 7 seasons, then raising the funding to build a £20million stadium buys you exactly 1 year of gratitude.'"

Is your comment directed towards my post? If so, please actually read it first.

What I said was that I was sick of the 'we must be grateful to McManus' line. I didn't say we shouldn't be grateful to McManus for his millions or indeed for anything else. I'm personally getting tired of reading the line, and I'm not the only one.

Gratitude for his millions can be taken as a given. But that he paid those millions for doing something he himself wanted to do, should not automatically mean that we (the fans per se) can't criticise him for other aspects of his involvement with the club if, in our (the fans per se) opinion he isn't doing, or doesn't appear to be doing, the right thing.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I didn't experience any 'aura' around Rush when he said hello in the Red Vee Cafe. He's got a bit of a belly on him though.'"

And what's wrong with Bellys that are shall we say large?

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I was underwhelmed almost a little annoyed but as many have said he is overly qualified with the on-field stuff, he wont be near any book keeping so ill give the man the chance he deserves.

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He'll make a good fist of it and will hopefully steer the club back towards on field issues.

Some people need to give the man a chance before calling him, in reality nobody on here knows how qualified he may or may not be.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Is your comment directed towards my post? If so, please actually read it first.

What I said was that I was sick of the 'we must be grateful to McManus' line. I didn't say we shouldn't be grateful to McManus for his millions or indeed for anything else. I'm personally getting tired of reading the line, and I'm not the only one.

Gratitude for his millions can be taken as a given. But that he paid those millions for doing something he himself wanted to do, should not automatically mean that we (the fans per se) can't criticise him for other aspects of his involvement with the club if, in our (the fans per se) opinion he isn't doing, or doesn't appear to be doing, the right thing.'"


I am a fan and this person doesn't speak for me......per se.....

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I always take the view if you want to play you have to pay. The owner basically took on a bankrupt outfit and that is factual. He gave us a platform to support sustain a good level of success I would still say we are the premier outfit of the summer era, and the golden goose a new stadium which he drove forward with an obsession. This gives him the right to appoint senior figures within the organisation good luck Rushie.

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