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Gardner has far more over foster than just experience - better defence, immeasurably better kick returns, a genuine threat from kicks to the corner, more effective in exit sets, harder to stop near the try line .....
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I beg to differ. He was atrocious under the bomb for years, before a couple of good years under Anderson, he then reverted to type under Potter. He's never been better than average defensively.
He has no pace (I think he's gone the length of the pitch once (against Wire at home after an intercept)), has little footwork, hardly ever beats a man, rarely breaks a tackle and benefited greatly playing outside two of the best centres in the game at the time. Gidley had that little confidence in him he preferred to kick the ball into the in goal area and chase the kick rather than pass to him more often than not.
What he has on Foster at this moment in time is experience.'"
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Gardner has far more over foster than just experience - better defence, immeasurably better kick returns, a genuine threat from kicks to the corner, more effective in exit sets .....'"
Adey is absolutely fearless when returning kicks; he is like a man possessed! |
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| Quote: Mr Carl "Adey is absolutely fearless when returning kicks; he is like a man possessed!'"
He is now but he hasnt always been. Earlier in his career he was far more foster like in his returns. |
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| Quote: No1 Saint "He is now but he hasnt always been. Earlier in his career he was far more foster like in his returns.'"
I remember the semi-final at the Galpharm against Hull(?) in 2005(?), and you winced everytime a high ball came down anywhere near him, because you just knew he was about to concede a try. Compare that to now, it's like light and shade. |
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| Quote: Mr Carl "I remember the semi-final at the Galpharm against Hull(?) in 2005(?), and you winced everytime a high ball came down anywhere near him, because you just knew he was about to concede a try. Compare that to now, it's like light and shade.'"
He's taking the ball in that well he should be playing at Prop, albeit he would be our slowest prop. GET RID NOW. He's supposed to be a winger for f***'s sake.
The fastest man on the team, or am I missing something? |
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| Quote: wirefox "The fastest man on the team, or am I missing something?'"
Yes you are, namely 20 years' worth of tactical evolution... |
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Makes sense, Hull have Mr.Man, Mr.Tickle out for the duration, they need a good punter, Foster fits the bill. He is a bit of a one trick pony so if I was Rush/Brown, I’d leave him there.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Yes you are, namely 20 years' worth of tactical evolution...'"
If you cast your mind back just a few years or so we had two of the fastest wingers in the game scoring tries for fun.
I'm sorry but I dont buy your "tactical evolution". Incidentally 20yrs is nothing when considering my experience in the game of Rugby League. I value your opinion, you are entitled to it, but I could never accept it. |
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| Quote: wirefox "If you cast your mind back just a few years or so we had two of the fastest wingers in the game scoring tries for fun.
I'm sorry but I dont buy your "tactical evolution". Incidentally 20yrs is nothing when considering my experience in the game of Rugby League. I value your opinion, you are entitled to it, but I could never accept it.'"
I like fast wingers too but alot of coaches go for size rather than pace. Wigan went for a freak like Inga who was fast and big but the first team I remember sacrificing pace in the name of tactics was the Dulls, I remember them having a bloke called Scales on the wing |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Gardner has far more over foster than just experience - better defence, immeasurably better kick returns, a genuine threat from kicks to the corner, more effective in exit sets .....'"
After 10 years more in the game, I'd expect him to be better in defence.
I think you're also being generous in regard to his kick returns, better maybe, immeasurably less so. Maybe 2 yards per return?  |
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I like fast wingers too but alot of coaches go for size rather than pace. Wigan went for a freak like Inga who was fast and big but the first team I remember sacrificing pace in the name of tactics was the Dulls, I remember them having a bloke called Scales on the wing'"
I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington. |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington.'"
I did. Some player |
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I take it you never saw Ike Southward at Workington.'"
before my time |
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| Well he was a Wigan fan from birth... |
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