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Actually, Knowsley Road doesn't ever look empty on TV, except at the away end (when often it IS empty!). It always looks fuller on TV than it usually is in reality. It will be harder to disguise any bare patches if/when we finally get our new stadium.

I think our lowest attendance this season was at the last match, wasn't it? We only got about 8,500 for that. I don't think we had an attendance of less than 9000 before Friday during this season.

the state of the stadium is to blame for that, rising attendances in a recession should always be celebrated.

Do you honestly believe that Saints relatively poor attendances are due to "the state of the stadium"?

Do you not think that the increase this year is attributable to the "free season ticket" with a shirt promotion?

How is it the state of the stadium? Nothing wrong with it, proper rugby ground that can create a fantastic atmosphere.

well as hull and warrington managed to increase their attendance by around 50% when they moved to a new stadium, it seems an older stadium deters, or a new stadium attracts fans.

Hull also went on to win the challenge cup and go to old trafford becoming one of the best teams in the league over a few years at the same time.

Warrington struggled before a new stadium came but now you could not have super league without them, they have improved on the field also.

Saints cannot get any better really. The stadium will take the average up a few thousand maybe, but mainly due to the fact that more away fans will travel.

It took ages for Wigans attendances to go up after the sale of Central Park.

As will more home fans.

Saints fans always moan and say the JJB has no atmosphere and is lifeless. What do you think it will be like at your new ground?

Dunno, dunno.

However, your point on home fans, I refer you back to an earlier post I made.

Some people have to get 3 (yes 3!) buses from their local stop to Saints. People also moan about the parking. They moan even before they get there.

Saints' studied this at great length prior to the 08 season. The made strides to kill such apathy, but as it is, KR just isn't an enticing prospect to spend all day fannying about to get to.

The new stadium will invigorate the town's interest.

I actually doubt there will be that big of an increase in away fans. Yourselves and Wire will travel well, what ever. The Hull clubs enjoy a chance to scrap between themselves in another town. The only sides I can actually bothering to travel to Saints any better are Leeds.

We moan the Wigan fans have no atmosphere and are lifeless...

Aye, but not at Central Park, the same will happen to Saints. You'll be playing in a place that will never feel quite like 'home'.

I think the difference for us will be we know we need this, and I would hazard any one not wanting to move is bordering on the next appointment in God's waiting room.