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Quote: Offside Monkey "But Wello's first try was from an absolute peach of a run onto Walsh's shoulder. As a couple of us posted recently, could he play this narrow attacking role from 13 and let Lomax do the work outside?'"

I would agree with that, yes. Could you suggest it to Brown do you think? ha!

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Quote: SaintsFan "Oh was it? I;m as blind as a bat stood squinting in the West Stand when they get down to the far end! I need to invest in some binoculars! I'm impressed by Thompson though I have to say he is the only one of our young forwards that stands out to me (Savelio aside).

Yes, but Walsh still made the tackles and not all of them were with Wellens' help. I could see THAT much!

Tonight was a team effort; a real gutsy win. I disagree with Judder Man. I have no idea which game he was watching but it definately wasn't the one at Langtree Park!'"



It was very scrappy game with spells of knockathons, yes it was a gutsy win but the game had no intensity. If you are a self confessed "blind as a bat" maybe you have missed the state of play.
At the end of the day its 2 points bit I wouldn,t like to the see Hick the referee every week he was atrocious.

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Well this week has certainly helped our points difference. Started almost 100 apart from Leeds now cut the deficit down to 59.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "I think a Greenwood is 20 and Thompson 18.
Walker is 22 and IMO needs to give us an extra gear going forward, sooner rather than later, if he's going to be a success long term.'"


A year out icon_wink.gif greenwood is 21 and Thompson 19 - They are definitely the stand outs so far for our youngsters though icon_biggrin.gif I'm still hopeful for Richards as well though. Walker needs to step up a bit for me.

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Bad game against a poor Salford team. Eden is awful! Thompson, Wellens and Walsh the standouts for me. LMS was awful first half but came into the game more in the second half. Got caught outwide far too many times though, better teams would have capitalised on that.

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Walker is awful player. I know he's cheap etc.. but he aint good enough for any SL club let alone ours.

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Quote: Judder Man "It was very scrappy game with spells of knockathons, yes it was a gutsy win but the game had no intensity. If you are a self confessed "blind as a bat" maybe you have missed the state of play.'"

I missed nothing of the sort. I didn't say it was classic rugby league. But how you could find such a gutsy win boring I'll never know. We were on one leg and battling against an opposition out to injure us all the time. For the spirit that we displayed when we had a halfback on the wing and a second rower at centre and half the team limping (or so it seemed) it was a good match to watch, not to mention the abuse we could give to Hicks who had a very poor showing.

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I think awful is a tad unfair.

If he was supposed to be our star prop fair enough, but normally he would be playing less than 10 games a season.

Also did he not get knocked out tonight???

I called him the last time he played and then he was the forward with the 2nd best average gain after Mose against Huddersfield.

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Cunninghams report: www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 06/9332603?

Aha, I called walker out too, so I'm keeping schtum icon_wink.gif but I still think he's the player with the least potential out of the 4 that have broken through so far
Cunninghams report: www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 06/9332603?

Aha, I called walker out too, so I'm keeping schtum icon_wink.gif but I still think he's the player with the least potential out of the 4 that have broken through so far


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I thought that, considering we had only one interchange player for over half the match, it was a real gutsy effort tonight. Plenty of walking wounded as well as those who went off and didn't return. Wello was my man of the match but Walsh is pure class and LMS put a shift in this week. Roby was also up there. Thank god for the week off.

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You can send all the thank you cards to Leeds.

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Quote: bewareshadows "You can send all the thank you cards to Leeds.'"


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Interestingly, were now 9 points ahead of where we were last year!

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Interestingly, were now 9 points ahead of where we were last year!'"

That's the value of Luke Walsh and James Roby.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "Those walsh tackles were down to brilliant play by Wellens. He really did position his self well to force the winger to slow down and adjust which allowed Walsh to chase back and effect the tackle.'"


Give over. How brilliant is positioning yourself in the right centre channel when the right winger is breaking on the half way line? It's not rocket science and nothing every other professional fullback wouldn't do. I'll tell you what, Wello's tackling was woeful tonight.

To be fair to him other than that he had a decent game. He runs good lines and against terrible sides like Salford he will still be effective running close to the line off the back of Walsh. He's a clever player and would have been a sensational player if he had any pace. Whilst him playing when Lomax is injured is okay, it's clearly not an option to leave him there, still killing moves tonight jogging onto balls out wide and putting the breaks on the momentum of the move.

Tonight showed just how pathetic Super League is. You could tell from the warm up that neither side was at all bothered about the game and it showed throughout as 34 players went through the motions with no real enthusiasm for the contest anywhere. Salford had no intention of beating us, just slowing everything down and avoiding a hammering. Their holding down, the number of high shots and the niggling was ridiculous. The refereeing was utterly embarassing tonight, he had no control over anything and the whole thing was shambolic. Salford should be ashamed of themselves, we had 1 player on the bench for most of the game and they put us under very little pressure. By the final 20 minutes we had several players on the field who were clearly injured, but they didn't seem to care about that or try to exploit it. At one stage Wheeler could barely walk and was defending alone on the blind side of the scrum. Be clever and run at him? No, go the other way and walk into a tackle one out. The players walked to scrums, had a drink, had a chat. When someone scored they did the same, taking an age to line up again.

The game kicked off at 8. The England game kicked off at 8 and Warrington's game did. England's game was 5 minutes longer due to the sport involved and Warrington's was on Sky with video ref calls. Saints game finished well after both of those games at gone ten to. Had that game been on Sky with video ref replays we'd probably still be there now.

As for how we played, better defensively tonight and ultimately a decent shift from the pack given the lack of a bench due to injuries. Wilkin was having an absolute stinker before he went off, the worst I've ever seen him play, although I found his lack of faith in Wello's pace particularly funny, not trusting him to make it from 20 yards out unopposed. Roby and Walsh were the stand outs for me but there were decent shifts from LMS, Thompson, Sia, Masoe.

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