FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > St. Helens > The injuries & Hiho
65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "No chance.

Warrington have been more pants this year than they have been for a long time.'"


We will see.

That's Catalan and now Warrington in last few weeks.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "No chance.

Warrington have been more pants this year than they have been for a long time.'"

Catalan aren't pants now though even taking into consideration their shakey away performances.

I'm concerned that our performance against London was not good enough to give us momentum going into a game against a potentially resurgent Bradford, especially bearing in mind that Magic Weekend follows that and Warrington are bound to up their game against us even if they are a little lacking in the halfback department this season. For my own personal peace of mind, we needed to have performed as we did in the first 20 minutes against London for at least 60 minutes in order for me to feel like we will turn Bradford over. As it is, Walsh's returning form aside, I don't feel any more comfortable with Saints this week as I did last week.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I reckon Bradford will get a try or two. But I think the scoreline against Wire shows there weakness is defensively.

At the moment I imagine they are quite entertaining to watch, I'd hope we are doing training drills on defense this week, as if we need to keep improving this through the season. If we are to be contenders, I would expect our point against average to start dropping.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "I reckon Bradford will get a try or two. But I think the scoreline against Wire shows there weakness is defensively.'"

I haven't checked this but apparently us and Wire are equal 5th on defence.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "I reckon Bradford will get a try or two. But I think the scoreline against Wire shows there weakness is defensively.

At the moment I imagine they are quite entertaining to watch, I'd hope we are doing training drills on defense this week, as if we need to keep improving this through the season. If we are to be contenders, I would expect our point against average to start dropping.'"


Let's not get carried away with the 48 we scored against London. Our attack is nothing special in recent weeks, we are struggling to get any go forward and often stuck in our own half.

To sum up our recent form, we are woeful in defence and very average in attack which doesn't bode well going to a team that just beat Warrington and Catalan.

Don't get me wrong, the wolves and cats ain't the greatest so far this year but we are currently in shocking form.

If we play how we can, we will win and pretty easy but on current form, I think the bulls will win. That defeat at the DW was a wake up call and they have reacted how a team who's been bagged off should react, unlike the mighty allstars at saints.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



It's not the 48 points against London, it's the 18 points we put in against Leeds that makes me think we have the attacking qualities.

I really do see the Easter period as a falling off the horse.

We should have been better than that, not saying enough to win, but enough to do better.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "It's not the 48 points against London, it's the 18 points we put in against Leeds that makes me think we have the attacking qualities.

I really do see the Easter period as a falling off the horse.

We should have been better than that, not saying enough to win, but enough to do better.'"


How tough was our Easter in reality ?

Not very really in terms of being tired. We rested nearly the whole team for Widnes and went to Leeds fresh. We might have scored 18 points but let's be honest we was awful with the ball.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



It was tougher than Wigan's and Leeds if you look at the lead up.

We should have been better no doubt, but I'm not going to dismiss all other games and just look at Easter and say we are hopeless.

We are in the fight more this year than last year and the year before. We have better quality across most if not all positions.

I still reckon top 2 is the aim

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: SaintsFan "I haven't checked this but apparently us and Wire are equal 5th on defence.'"



Yes but Bradford have shipped in double what Saints and Wire have. Hence my point about Bradford having a leaky defense.

We'll do ok.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "It was tougher than Wigan's and Leeds if you look at the lead up.

We should have been better no doubt, but I'm not going to dismiss all other games and just look at Easter and say we are hopeless.

We are in the fight more this year than last year and the year before. We have better quality across most if not all positions.

I still reckon top 2 is the aim'"


I agree it was tougher in the build up and post Easter but the players had a rest at Widnes and went into the Leeds game fresh and some might say battle hardned.

Lomax, swift, Turner, Percy, Walsh, Amor, Roby, walmsley etc off the top of my head was rested at Widnes so they had 7 days off to rest and prepare which is more than enough.

Swift had 3 weeks rest, turner played 1 game in 3 weeks, Percy month off, Walsh had 3 weeks off this year, Amor had 3/4 weeks off this year, Wilkin had 3 game ban, Lms 2 game ban so it's not like we have been flogged, in fact most the team should be fresh.

Add that to some close intense games, we actually could say we had a very good prep for the Leeds game. It's not great going into a big game without being in deep water, it's not the best going into the Leeds game smashing Eveyone and it's not great going in tired which we couldn't have been.

We are making excuses up and the isn't any. It's simple, if the other team puts 100% effort in and we put 70% effort in and with Wigan and Leeds ability they will win.


So basically -


Was we too tired ? No!

Was we battle hardened for the game ? Yes!


Did we play to our ability ? No!

Was we committed ? No!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: St pete "I agree it was tougher in the build up and post Easter but the players had a rest at Widnes and went into the Leeds game fresh and some might say battle hardned.

Lomax, swift, Turner, Percy, Walsh, Amor, Roby, walmsley etc off the top of my head was rested at Widnes so they had 7 days off to rest and prepare which is more than enough.

Swift had 3 weeks rest, turner played 1 game in 3 weeks, Percy month off, Walsh had 3 weeks off this year, Amor had 3/4 weeks off this year, Wilkin had 3 game ban, Lms 2 game ban so it's not like we have been flogged, in fact most the team should be fresh.

Add that to some close intense games, we actually could say we had a very good prep for the Leeds game. It's not great going into a big game without being in deep water, it's not the best going into the Leeds game smashing Eveyone and it's not great going in tired which we couldn't have been.

We are making excuses up and the isn't any. It's simple, if the other team puts 100% effort in and we put 70% effort in and with Wigan and Leeds ability they will win.


So basically -


Was we too tired ? No!

Was we battle hardened for the game ? Yes!


Did we play to our ability ? No!

Was we committed ? No!'"



Like I say we should have been better no doubt, but these 3 games don't have to pan out to be a reader for the rest of the season.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy.

We are nearly half the way through the season and league wise regards to wins and losses there is one point between us and Leeds and we where the ones to take those 2 points off them.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "Like I say we should have been better no doubt, but these 3 games don't have to pan out to be a reader for the rest of the season.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy.

We are nearly half the way through the season and league wise regards to wins and losses there is one point between us and Leeds and we where the ones to take those 2 points off them.'"


Aye, if have took two games lost at the half way point and one game we fielded at weakened team (still good enough to win that day). I think if we went to Widnes with full team we'd prob win.

Can't knock the position in the table. Second is very good but it's the performances we've been putting in which is the worry. I know you'll say it's about peaking in September and not May and I agree but the way Leeds and Wigan beat us has left me worried. I don't think we can win then type of ganes, if you can't win them games, you can't win the grand final.

We won't finish in the top 2 and I highly doubt a old Trafford appearance .

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



If we lose to Wigan in the same manner come the return leg, I may start to worry.

But I still remember the season at Widnes were we lost against all the big guns in every game that year.

We drew Wigan twice in the playoffs and we beat them twice.

I'd be happy if our defense tightens up as that is what will win a final. But it only needs to improve slowly. We won't fix it all by Millenium weekend.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman25689No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Our league position is very strong at his stage. Leeds are the stand out team so far this season so to be in their sights is a good place to be. If we can finish top 2 (and that should be our aim) then we should all be very happy.

The worry for me is our recent performances especially defensively. Compare our points against to Leeds and it is miles apart. Our points for is slightly behind them so I'm not too concerned about that but we're shipping in far too many points and this has to be the focus or the rest of the season. Come the play offs,you simpl cannot afford to be shipping in so many points, the defence has to be at it's best.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7498
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2023Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bewareshadows "
I do think we are living in the past and looking through rose tinted spectacles at times. I recall many a season going to Wakey and Salford with the golden generation expecting easy games only to get turned over.

.'"



I agree I remember them too but invariably we would raise our game on the big occasion , I'm not sure we have the people to do that these days.

65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint
65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


7.24462890625:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40799
10m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
13m
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
190
17m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63266
19m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Roam Ranger
4045
20m
Film game
Boss Hog
5748
23m
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
25m
Ground Improvements
BarnsleyGull
190
34m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
28899
44m
Salford placed in special measures
poplar cats
109
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
New Kit
matt_wire
69
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63266
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5748
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
190
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Roam Ranger
4045
1m
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
1m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
37
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Wires71
53
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,748 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40799
10m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
13m
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
190
17m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63266
19m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Roam Ranger
4045
20m
Film game
Boss Hog
5748
23m
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
25m
Ground Improvements
BarnsleyGull
190
34m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
28899
44m
Salford placed in special measures
poplar cats
109
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
New Kit
matt_wire
69
1m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63266
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5748
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
190
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Roam Ranger
4045
1m
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
1m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
SFW
7
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
paulwalker71
8
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
37
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Wires71
53
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!