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We have no match winners. We have no Kallum Watkins or Albert Kelly etc.. someone with that bit of pace who can turns a game in a split second. And for me them players win you grand finals (Rob Burrow for example). We can grind out results and our forwards can demolish teams but for me top backs win you games.
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Quote: LFC Saint "We have no match winners. We have no Kallum Watkins or Albert Kelly etc.. someone with that bit of pace who can turns a game in a split second. And for me them players win you grand finals (Rob Burrow for example). We can grind out results and our forwards can demolish teams but for me top backs win you games.'"


Walsh, Lomax and Percival (the latter to a lesser extent) fit that bill. Let's not throw the baby out the pram. The plus side (if there is one) is we'd of lost that game by 40 last year. The positive last year is there was always a response, we need one now.
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Quote: LFC Saint "We have no match winners. We have no Kallum Watkins or Albert Kelly etc.. someone with that bit of pace who can turns a game in a split second. And for me them players win you grand finals (Rob Burrow for example). We can grind out results and our forwards can demolish teams but for me top backs win you games.'"


Albert Kelly is as big a negative as a positive. He did absolutely nothing tonight bar catch those two interceptions and run.

There aren't many Kallum Watkins level players in Super League. If there were they'd all be researching properties in Sydney like Watkins is spending his time doing. We've not got a bad set of players, the approach and level of professionalism and execution weren't good enough tonight. We're not a great side, but neither are any of the other sides in SL. I'd say we have probably the best 17 if we could get them all on the pitch. We can even afford a defeat to Wigan as long as we beat Hull. Things are that bad, tonight was just a shocking performance. It happens from time to time. That's not to say there shouldn't be repercussions from it, Swift's place must surely be in doubt now.
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Walsh wont split the defence and go 60 metres when our forwards are taking a battering. Lomax before 2 cruciate injuries had the potential and Percival at the minute does hav ethe potential to be that player.

We dont have anybody who can go round the outside or over players and make 60 - 70 metre breaks. Not one. When we was the top dogs Bradford had the pack we had the backs. That's what wins you the Grand finals
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Quote: LFC Saint "Walsh wont split the defence and go 60 metres when our forwards are taking a battering. Lomax before 2 cruciate injuries had the potential and Percival at the minute does hav ethe potential to be that player.

We dont have anybody who can go round the outside or over players and make 60 - 70 metre breaks. Not one. When we was the top dogs Bradford had the pack we had the backs. That's what wins you the Grand finals'"


I know. But neither does anyone else, so it doesn't really matter. Leeds have probably the best backs in SL and they are an injury to Cuthbertson or Peacock away from being nothing. Get Walsh back and we'll be fine this season. Tonight was just a dreadful performance.
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Quote: LFC Saint "Walsh wont split the defence and go 60 metres when our forwards are taking a battering. Lomax before 2 cruciate injuries had the potential and Percival at the minute does hav ethe potential to be that player.

We dont have anybody who can go round the outside or over players and make 60 - 70 metre breaks. Not one. When we was the top dogs Bradford had the pack we had the backs. That's what wins you the Grand finals'"


Hi,
We won the grand final 2014 with Wellens & Flash at 6 & 7.
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Saddened you do know we had very little platform laid by our tiny forwards for Kelly to play off,so he comes up with two intercepts that win us the game,and you say he did nowt lol lol lol , are you sucking lemons dude
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Quote: LFC Saint "Walsh wont split the defence and go 60 metres when our forwards are taking a battering. Lomax before 2 cruciate injuries had the potential and Percival at the minute does hav ethe potential to be that player.

We dont have anybody who can go round the outside or over players and make 60 - 70 metre breaks. Not one. When we was the top dogs Bradford had the pack we had the backs. That's what wins you the Grand finals'"


We do lack a strike player in the backs. We have for long time. Percy could be a strike player and I think he will be in time but at the moment we don't have a player in the backs or the forwards for that matter than can make a break out of nothing.

Teams will have no fear kicking down the throat of any of the fullbacks we have covering lomax as none can beat a man.
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Quote: kitche "Saddened you do know we had very little platform laid by our tiny forwards for Kelly to play off,so he comes up with two intercepts that win us the game,and you say he did nowt lol lol lol , are you sucking lemons dude'"


He's an exciting player, he'll score plenty. He'll cost you plenty as well, his mistakes and dodgy decision making are the reason he never made it in the NRL.
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Quote: Saddened! "Albert Kelly is as big a negative as a positive. He did absolutely nothing tonight bar catch those two interceptions and run.

There aren't many Kallum Watkins level players in Super League. If there were they'd all be researching properties in Sydney like Watkins is spending his time doing. We've not got a bad set of players, the approach and level of professionalism and execution weren't good enough tonight. We're not a great side, but neither are any of the other sides in SL. I'd say we have probably the best 17 if we could get them all on the pitch. We can even afford a defeat to Wigan as long as we beat Hull. Things are that bad, tonight was just a shocking performance. It happens from time to time. That's not to say there shouldn't be repercussions from it, Swift's place must surely be in doubt now.'"


You'll like this (not).
I thought we missed Wello. HiHo was dreadful in both positions and TM is not a full back - he has no idea how to link with the attack. Wello is still the best option after JL.

I think we will be without Burns and Roby next week. We will have zero playmakers, so our pack will have to play union style.

I agree we were awful across the park with only TM and Walmsley having decent games.
We kept thinking the game would turn our way then panicked when it didn't and got two lucky tries from running it on the last.

I feel sorry for the loyal fans who went. eusa_clap.gif

The only thing is, this is looking like last season when we had some truly awful games, no playmakers, lots of injuries, lots of slagging off on this forum etc etc
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Quote: saint at wire "You'll like this (not).
I thought we missed Wello. HiHo was dreadful in both positions and TM is not a full back - he has no idea how to link with the attack. Wello is still the best option after JL.

I think we will be without Burns and Roby next week. We will have zero playmakers, so our pack will have to play union style.

I agree we were awful across the park with only TM and Walmsley having decent games.
We kept thinking the game would turn our way then panicked when it didn't and got two lucky tries from running it on the last.

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Quote: Saddened! "Nonsense. All Wello would have done was make it look like Kelly was Usain Bolt as he chased back to see if he could get back before Manatello had popped over the conversion. Wello also wouldn't have linked in, as we very rarely got past the first pass from the half back. They either put a stupid kick in to no runners or passed it the gap between them and the next Saints player to see if any Hull KR players fancied a run. We could have had Greg Inglis or Darren Lockyer playing fullback tonight and they'd have barely touched the ball all night.'"


Wello would of given us a lot more stability at the back than Hohaia did.
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Quote: Judder Man "I agree, the problem is we always get these fickle, kneejerking fans whenever we come up with a loss and the slagging experts come out to play.
We played under par and lost the game get over it and support the team win or lose and move on.'"


Pah, nowt wrong with a little constructive criticism. We can't hold hands and skip round in circles all the time. The players and coaches aren't beyond criticism, Burns, Wilkin, Swift and KC will have plenty on their minds after that showing. Make or break for us I feel now. We got to Wigan and get hammered and it'll be hard to turn the tap back on, go there and win or go close and the good start and Wigan and Warrington's poor start will let us off the hook.

This is the first test of KC the coach. He's done a reasonable job so far, but made plenty of mistakes tonight. His use of Mose from the bench was wrong. He should have played 30 minutes a half, his size alone would have caused them real problems, with Alex and Vea taking second balls after his runs. We could have played cynically tonight and won comfortably, instead it looked like the cast of Allo Allo playing tonight rather than the Super League champions.
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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Wello would of given us a lot more stability at the back than Hohaia did.'"


Hohaia didn't spend all that long there did he. I don't see which points Wello would have stopped? He might have got to Dixons's in time to berate Travis Burns for his awful defending, but he wouldn't have stopped anything. He wouldn't have stopped the one Swift dropped as he wouldn't have got there until they'd already scored.
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