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I don't see Long and Briers in the same team, myself, so I'd say no.

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Quote: jonnythesaint "I don't see Long and Briers in the same team, myself, so I'd say no.'"


Exactly, too many cooks and all that. I have absolutely no doubt that the two of them together, both in the squad and in the team, would have been a ticking time bomb.

Briers' ability has also increased massively as he has matured. Pre Tony Smith at Warrington I wouldn't have touched Briers with a barge pole. He was far too gung ho, particularly against Saints where his raging bitterness shone through and he tried too hard, completely at the disadvantage of his side's tactics. He didn't mature into the player he is now until later on in his career and he wasn't worthy of a place at Saints until recently.

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Breirs would have been a natural to play alongside Longy and would have provided us with 2 kickers and creative halfs in those years when we where making finals but not winning that cutting edge could have made the difference. Also would have solved our more recent half back issue.

Hooper was fine, but I would not class him in the same class as Longy, Martyn and Briers.

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Briers has only come into prominence over the last 5 years, in 2003 he was a poor defender and had a sloppy (interceptions) passing game. He would have been better around 2008 when Long + co were at the end of there careers.

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I disagree I think Briers has always had a touch of class about him, even in 2000 he took the aussies on with Cunningham.

It was not just Briers that changed with Smith. The whole Warrington side upped their game. So if you put Briers in a better side, he would have been better.

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Quote: jonnythesaint "I don't see Long and Briers in the same team, myself, so I'd say no.'"

Exactermundo! Briers is/was brilliant but not as good as Longy.
Would he have helped us in the last few years, Plenty!!

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Quote: bewareshadows "I disagree I think Briers has always had a touch of class about him, even in 2000 he took the aussies on with Cunningham.'"


I'm with you. I remember when Bobby G got his 8 match ban for taking Neil Cowie's head off. Up stepped the kid Lee Briers and he was outstanding. Especially in the game against Wigan where Tommy Martyn pulled up in the warm up and all we had was Lee Briers and we beat them off a great performance by Briers.

It's a shame Bobby returned from his ban and Lee joined Warrington. I think he'd have been a saints great in the same league as KC if he'd stayed a saints.

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Hooper was an underrated player though. He was better in the back row than at 6, but he had an awful lot of guile and steel - when we started to lose players like him, Talau and Scully, our trophies started to dry up.

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Quote: AndyH "I'm with you. I remember when Bobby G got his 8 match ban for taking Neil Cowie's head off. Up stepped the kid Lee Briers and he was outstanding. Especially in the game against Wigan where Tommy Martyn pulled up in the warm up and all we had was Lee Briers and we beat them off a great performance by Briers.

It's a shame Bobby returned from his ban and Lee joined Warrington. I think he'd have been a saints great in the same league as KC if he'd stayed a saints.'"



If he'd stayed we would probably not have picked up Longy from Widnes. I'm happy with the deal we got thanks.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Hooper was an underrated player though. He was better in the back row than at 6, but he had an awful lot of guile and steel - when we started to lose players like him, Talau and Scully, our trophies started to dry up.'"



Spot on , you always need that Steel and guile to go along with the flair in a team. Obviously it's better if you can find a player with everything like Scully but those players are few and far between.

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Quote: No1 Saint "If he'd stayed we would probably not have picked up Longy from Widnes. I'm happy with the deal we got thanks.'"


Me too. Long is twice the player that Briers was/is.

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The way Briers was treated by St Helens was a disgrace!

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Quote: jaybs "The way Briers was treated by St Helens was a disgrace!'"


Do you mean by picking the best scrum half in super league before lee?

Bobbie Goulding at the time was Mr St. Helens. He was by far the best halfback in super league and arguably the best in the world at that time!

I would have done the same thing and picked Bobbie because he was our best player.

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Quote: St pete "Do you mean by picking the best scrum half in super league before lee?

Bobbie Goulding at the time was Mr St. Helens. He was by far the best halfback in super league and arguably the best in the world at that time!

I would have done the same thing and picked Bobbie because he was our best player.'"


Any team in the League would have done what Saints did. Briers was unlucky , especially not to make the travelling squad but that's life. I wish we had a player like Goulding now.

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Quote: jaybs "The way Briers was treated by St Helens was a disgrace!'"



Do you practice being a plonker or does it come naturally? Your dislike and obsession of Saints would be understandable if you were a pie eater but your worse than that, your a turncoat.

Bog off to the London board and keep the tumble-weeds company

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