I'm very cautious.

Remember what we did in 2003 and 2004 v Saints with a team full of kids. Enthusiasm can be great short term leveller.

i dont think this will be one sided by any means. look at bradford last night. desimated with injury but nearly pulled off a shock, and that wasn't even a derby. saints will keep this close and could edge it. it cannot be unerestimated the loss of lockers. his work rate and big hits are crucial to us, and he is also in the top 5 in try assists this year. im still not convined eastmond wont play either

On paper for me Wigan should win. Good news for us is games arent played on paper. My head says Wigan by 10-16 points but my heart says Saints can do it. To win we'll need to dominate up front and literally starve Wigan of field position.

No doubting O'Loughlin is a big loss to your side, but we have several big players missing which is why our backs are against the wall. That can often bring the best of a team though and hopefully Saints step up to the plate, i'm quietly confident. Eastmond isn't playing, Moore at scrum half. He's not making a Radlinski style recovery unfortunatley.

Both teams may have their injuries - Saints though are in more key positions. I'd like Wigan to take us on without a number of key players. For us it is sometimes a case of we are playing not second choice but third choice in those positions. We have coped well so far and it will only do the lads good in the long term. Bragging rights it may be today - who knows. The end of the season will be another matter I would take us from anywhere to step up to the challenge provided we can get most if not all those key players back.
COME ON YOU SAINTS YOU CAN DO IT. (put the fear of God up the pies. )

You write as if I was the only one to anticipate a defeat, given that we had so many of our experienced players missing! Most posters anticipated a defeat against Hudds given our personnel situation. So you can't pin that on just me.

Given that Wigan beat us last time out and we performed poorly on the night (dropping ball and missing tackles, as can be our way this season) and given that we are missing some key players with as others have said sometimes third choice guys in their place, I think it's only reasonable to anticipate a loss against the league leaders who are six points ahead of us and don't look like losing anytime soon. That doesn't mean they WILL win, obviously, because as you so astutely point out, I am not a prophet or clairvoyant and therefore cannot tell the future. However, given our player situation I don't think we will win.

I have my ticket for the match, I will be there, I will be shouting and singing my support, and I hope we pull off a win. I don't think we will, but there is always hope.




You do say some stupid things.

It sure was backs against the wall, the last 10 minutes we was running on empty. We'd have lost that i feel it would have broke us. Credit to the whole team for the effort and both sides for the entertaining rugby league at its finest. Best game of the season by a country mile.

The last 10 minutes felt like 10 hours!

Then why say

Glad you were wrong. Yet again.

Not at all.

I am totally and utterly overjoyed at how wrong I was!!

It's absolutely fabulous that I was wrong!

I aint hanging my head anywhere. I am SO proud that I was wrong!

WELL DONE SAINTS FOR PROVING ME WRONG!!!

There's life in the Redvee dog yet!

Saints Fan picks up the pesimistic mantle of Saddened and Despondent Dave.
Obviously another one who does not believe in Joynty. 'Never, ever, write the Saints off!!!!!!!!!'

Hmm did Joynty ever have the pleasure of sharing a grand final place with Meli ?