St pete. I agree - we are playing terrible. Just imagine the score if we were a good team. Saints remind me of warrington 6 or 7 seven years ago - a one man team. You rely far too much on roby.

I honestly don't think you are that good this year and was surprised how easy we scored points as we e struggled all year putting points on the board but you lot have players that make things happen in the likes of Ratchford, Atkins, briers, myler, Westwood, Monaghan and Especially Waterhouse against us who always plays well.

We ain't in the same league as Wigan and IMO at the moment, Wigan are head and shoulders above you lot. Can't see who's going to stop them.

Lets hope they choke in the play offs again

He has been playing for Salford for a few weeks, at centre. They didn't need anyone in the halves. They have three halfbacks. But they needed someone in the centre. He can play centre, so he plays centre.

If there were problems off field, and that's only rumour, then they should have addressed the problems not simply shipped out a halfback leaving us without a halfback. That's just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Ryan McGoldrick, who is a journeyman and a makeshift stand off at best, has been getting picked at 6 ahead of Gaskell. I do agree that it would be handy to have him around, but it may just be that it wasn't possible to resolve whatever issues were arising. Most of us haven't a clue what's gone on, but I'm prepared to assume that he has burnt his own bridges at Saints because a) that is what posters with consistent insider info have said, and b) I can't think of any other reason why Saints would ship him out under current circumstances.

He had issues with saints last season under Rush. Nathan Brown came in and wanted him to be his first choice stand off but those same issues popped up again.

I'd be very surprised if he played for us again.

Funny how Gaskell didn't appear to have issues under Simmons. Surely if he had problems they would appear no matter who was in charge? Or are the problems perhaps to do with Rush directly? Rush appears to be very close to the coaching set up.

Obviously you don't know about the issues he DID have with Royce. Hull KR at home (Widnes) in the challenge cup (I think) when Gaskell was subbed for a returning Leon Pryce and then was dropped. Gaskell wasnt happy at all and had a bust up big time.

Royce only selected Gaskell when Leon was injured again but Royce did stick with Gaskell in the play offs due to form.

So clearly he could handle him then.

I wish, as a teacher, that I could just ship off the awkward kids in my class. What an easy life I would have some days!!

The fact Royce, Rush and then Brown all had issues must say something.

Not the same. You teach children for the good of the children. Our coach coaches players for the good of the club.

Assuming the gossip is true, of course. There is no 'fact' here at all. Just some posters on an internet forum making claims.
It's very easy for stories to be made up to try and justify a stupid action (getting rid of our one remaining fit halfback) rather than everyone just admit it was a stupid action.

I know its true