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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"The coach and his assistant are a team, if one is sacked I expect the other to be sacked as well.'"
Except when did that last happen?
Quote Billinge_LumpThen you either know something that is not in the public domain or are a bad gambler.'"
And on what do you base your judgement that my gamble would be bad?
Quote Billinge_LumpArguing semantics whilst getting basics wrong...'"
You mean making a spelling mistake?
And the word you want isn't 'semantics' but I won't push you on that as that really would be pedantic.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"It probably was a factor in sacking Royce, but a small one at that. I can't see, however, how Purtill fits into that hypothesis?'"
Royce was the head coach. He was where the buck stopped. Therefore, if both Royce AND Purtill were sacked, as they were, then there must have been something other than Royce's competence behind the decision McManus made. Had it been simply a question of Royce's competence, only Royce would have gone. The only 'other' that makes sense is the stadium. Not the physical building but the massive investment of time, energy and money McManus has made to enable that stadium to be built. Hearing the crowd booing the team would have seriously worried him as he will both want and need the fans to keep on coming in numbers.
Quote AlbionAnyway you said: '[ithe whole change was to do with money[/i' which is clearly untrue.'"
How do you know?
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Royce was the head coach. He was where the buck stopped. Therefore, if both Royce AND Purtill were sacked, as they were, then there must have been something other than Royce's competence behind the decision McManus made. Had it been simply a question of Royce's competence, only Royce would have gone. The only 'other' that makes sense is the stadium. Not the physical building but the massive investment of time, energy and money McManus has made to enable that stadium to be built. Hearing the crowd booing the team would have seriously worried him as he will both want and need the fans to keep on coming in numbers. '"
The reason Purtill was sacked IMO was to do with who was coming in...just a thought.
Quote SaintsFanHow do you know?'"
I don't [iknow[/i, but I think it's a fair assumption that something other than money was definitely a factor in the decision; only a fool would argue otherwise....
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| Quote Albion="Albion"The reason Purtill was sacked IMO was to do with who was coming in...just a thought.'"
Oh absolutely. And the boys coming in are both home boys aren't they? I'm quite sure McManus didn't get to be in the top 50 bankers by not being a ruthless barsteward who knows how to play people. Nothing better to placate the fans and keep them turning up in numbers than by replacing two individuals passing through with two home boys. But that still isn't a comment on Royce's competence as Cunningham doesn't yet have the proper badges even. IMO that was simply part of the solution to the identified problem which was the possibility of the fans jumping ship.
Quote AlbionI don't [iknow[/i, but I think it's a fair assumption that something other than money was definitely a factor in the decision; only a fool would argue otherwise....'"
I like your move there. I saw what you did. If I disagree now I am a fool. Well, there you go. Neither you nor me will ever know the real reasons behind McManus' decision and only a fool would disagree with that statement. But in the meantime we will all speculate until such time as we stop doing.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Oh absolutely. And the boys coming in are both home boys aren't they? I'm quite sure McManus didn't get to be in the top 50 bankers by not being a ruthless barsteward who knows how to play people. Nothing better to placate the fans and keep them turning up in numbers than by replacing two individuals passing through with two home boys. But that still isn't a comment on Royce's competence as Cunningham doesn't yet have the proper badges even. IMO that was simply part of the solution to the identified problem which was the possibility of the fans jumping ship.'"
I was hinting more towards Nathan Brown, but yes I wouldn't disagree with you there (if you take away the cynicism, the general point still has merit)
Quote SaintsFanI like your move there. I saw what you did. If I disagree now I am a fool. Well, there you go. Neither you nor me will ever know the real reasons behind McManus' decision and only a fool would disagree with that statement. But in the meantime we will all speculate until such time as we stop doing.'"
You need to get out more.
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| Quote Albion="Albion"You need to get out more.'"
I do. But alas the finances don't allow it.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I do. But alas the finances don't allow it.'"
Shame.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I do. But alas the finances don't allow it.'"
teachers are on a decent whack!
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|  Oh ffs here we go again in yet another thread. 
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan" But in the meantime we will all speculate until such time as we stop doing.'"
Erm no we can't all speculate. I would never put on here the off-field reasons for why I think he went, any suggesting anything off-field would be wide open to putting this site under liable.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I do. But alas the finances don't allow it.'"
You must get a decent wedge from all the Villages you represent.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Erm no we can't all speculate. I would never put on here the off-field reasons for why I think he went, any suggesting anything off-field would be wide open to putting this site under liable.'"
Speculating doesn't have to involve anything libelous.
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