What's The Alfred like these days? I spent many a happy hour there in my younger days.

It wasnt an order just a suggestion for those who enjoy watching vintage rugby and as the landlords are friend sof mine yes I thought i would give em a plug .

And now we get to the nub of the matter?

As there is no parking at the ground, why would the linkway be horrendous?

Surely the nearest bar will be the one at the ground?

It would be horrendous only if everybody wanted to go to the M62, or to Widnes or the other way to Warrington.

But outside the multistorey/old Tesco is bound to be gridlocked as that is no doubt where the club will be advising everyone to park. And lots of people will park in there, local and away fans. So there is bound to be some gridlock. Hopefully, though, most local fans will bus/walk it to make life easier generally.

Of course you'll always get some congestion, but don't forget there are two exits from the Chalon Way car park, which should help alleviate some of the traffic, some will funnel onto the linkway, some can go back through Fingerpost.

Oh yes, I agree. Although neither route is made for encouraging the swift movement of traffic! But even if both were, that still wouldn't stop congestion as everybody is leaving at pretty much the same time.

I think there are some people who just ask for the universe to be placed at their feet!

It's much handier if it is though

I am expecting it to be far easier to get away from parking in town than it was at Knowsley road.

The Town centre is designed to accommodate high traffic flow in multiple directions. Duel carriageways surround the town and these roads are all clearways with no parking allowed. This imcreases the speed of traffic and also traffic density. The streets around Knowsley road were merely residential side streets with much roadside parking, much of it was double parked which hindered departure.

The town centre car parks themselves have different exit routes this will also help segregate traffic, in mainly Easterly or Westerly directions.

Barrier systems within car parks also regulate egress from the car parks.

Roundabouts and traffic light systems all help to regulate the flow of traffic within the duel carriageways around the town centre.

The fact the stadium is in a central location means traffic will head out in different directions. At Knowsley road because the stadium was in the far West of St.Helens, most traffic headed Eastward. This should reduce the incidence of choke points.

This is a list of the town centre car parks with capacitys

St.Marys 317
Tontine 257
North John Street 216
Hardshaw centre 177
Millenium centre 35
Birchley street 496
ward street 72
Tolver street 33
Mill street 18
Cloughton street 18
Central street 53

I make that 1692 car parking spaces.

Sorry! yea that car park is ideal!

Can't understand the listing of some of all the car parks in Town for people to park, yes 1,600 plus places, but Park at Birchley Street you may as well walk from home! LOL

It's going to have to be a wait and see! I always find Wigan impossible with the traffic lights near Asda to turn right to M6.

Birchley St is not halfway to Wigan its a 15 min stroll , across Victoria sq past the bus station your in Shaw st , up Shaw st your almost at Lyons Yard , across the footbridge and your there, or turn down Peasley cross road , its not a 20 mile route march for gods sake !!

I am not kidding all the way through the build of the stadium and even during planning some people have been so negative about this , NOW they start on the parking, where did you park at KR!! it was a nightmare getting away from there , and finding on street parking was the same , I think some "fans" love nothing beter than to have a moan get a grip people.

Just to keep you in the mood Grunty....

I'm right fed up of that bloomin' bridge. I've never seen a footbridge installation keep roads blocked and the town centre traffic at grid lock for so long. What are they up to? Now they've taken it apart again. Do they know what they're doing?

Is that negative enough

Then go up Montrose Avenue, turn left into Pemberton, then right at the traffic lights. That will take you to Junction 26 of the M6.