Aye advantage saints in that area.

It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

I'm gonna see if I can aquire some more interest at the match on friday

The thing with terracing is, it allows the pre match drinkers (usually singers too) to get in at 7.58pm and still be able to join us.

The thing is it is a lot easier to get all the singers together. We know they will naturally gather at the back of the terrace near the middle.

We had the same on the popular side at central park but now singers are spread all over the stadium like at Widnes now with you guys.

I reckon the East Stand at Widnes has shown itself willing. One difficulty is that those who start the singing off seem to be grouped in two places at the back. If the fans who started off the singing were all grouped together that would make the kick start louder and people would be able to hear when to join in.

While chanting can be good, I think some fans will feel alienated if that's all we do. We need to sing as well (something Wigan fans don't really do).

Chants/Songs. It's all the same thing as long as it is noise. As long as it backs the boys.

For those who think it doesn't matter, Leon tweeted how moved he was by the reception he received on his return.

Atmosphere a the new stadium will depend on how well the team is doing on the pitch.

If we are winning and up there in the league then it will he buzzing but if we have a bad run if form then it could be like a grave yard.

This is from the Stobart.

Who wants an intimidating atmospere?
I want an enjoyable, competitve, sporting atmosphere.
What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.

This is why I'm hoping that the group(s) who start off the singing include singing as well as chanting. There will be room for both IMO but so long as it's both. Too many fans will be alienated if only the ultras style chanting is started off.

At the risk of sounding all victor meldrew, if I supported wigan and all that was going on around me and assuming my season ticket was for that stand, I would stop going. The same would apply fo rme if we started doing the same.

I was talking to some wigan fans at the HJ in the east stand after the game and they said they thought it was mindless & awful.
They said we were lucky because we only had to listen to it when we played wigan whereas they get it all the time!

It does look good and the away support at the Stobart was easily the best I've seen there, but, would you expect the party atmosphere to waver if you were in a less successful period?

If fans groups like this increase the gates at the new stadium, then I'm all for it. If other clubs do the same, then it will be good for the sport all over.